Starting Diesel equipment

JOB · Dec 23, 2008

I knew a couple of loggers that started their equipment using the coolant water from their pickup truck that they drove to the logging site. There was not many electrical plugs in the woods. I do not know the plumbing details but they put a Y in their heater hose line with a quick connect coupling, and the same thing on the equipment. They then had a couple lengths of heater hose with a male quick connect on one end and a female quick connect on the other. Plug in the heater hose between the two engines and let the brainless diesel warm up and it should start. This might be too late for some of you guys this winter, but I would bet it will get equally cold next winter or colder.

IaGary · Dec 23, 2008

That system is used around here with good success.

But haven't you heard it is getting warmer every year,according to Al Gore.

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David john · Dec 23, 2008

We use to do this all the time with our woods equipment. There is also a powered tank heater that is on a timer. Works great if it lights

olgentdc · Dec 23, 2008

Good Idea ! At My Barn , I Need to get a magnetic block heater for the Yan -(Murray).. They are gone as soon as a shipment comes in at TSC .. Yesterday Had to use the Electric HEAT GUN , And Ether to get the RASCAL to start,, After starting , I added a %5 mixture of gas to fuel ,, Seemed to Smoke less and Pickup and go like it was summertime ,. Time will Tell ..

Sean Feeney · Dec 23, 2008

A little o/t but same subject, mt friend bought one of those Freightliner vans a few years ago, it had a separate oil fired burner to warm up the system I thought it was pretty neat set-up.

Oldmax · Dec 23, 2008

Is this the same GUY that invented the INTERNET.

JDemaris · Dec 23, 2008

The siamese-hose hookup used to be common for diesels left in the woods - we had many customers that did it with their skidders and dozers. Usually done with standard hydraulic "quick couplers" hooked to heater hoses.

Also had a few with propane-fired block heaters, but they're expensive.

I see a few now are using the diesel-fired block heaters instead. In fact, Ford now offers them as an option with diesel pickups. They are getting more common now since many over-the-road big rigs aren't allowed to leave their engines idling for heat. So, some are using these diesel cab and block heaters instead.

IaGary · Dec 23, 2008

I believe it was the same guy?

Gary

PJBROWN VT · Dec 23, 2008

I know a guy who once started a small fire under his JD skidder in the wood so it would start. It was a JD 440... He claimed he had to do something to get it warm so it would start.

olgentdc · Dec 23, 2008

Family LORE ...Heard stories of building fires under the Twin City and a crossmotor Case , before rubber tires

GVSII · Dec 23, 2008

(quoted from post at 06:00:57 12/23/08) We use to do this all the time with our woods equipment. There is also a powered tank heater that is on a timer. Works great if it lights

onnecting a warmed up piece of equipment to a cold piece of equipment is sometimes called hot blooding.

bruster · Dec 23, 2008

The small diesel fired block heaters have been around for trucks and construction equipment for a while now. In 1986 I got trained to troubleshoot and repair Wabasto, Hunter, Espar and Hot Box coolant and cab heaters. They even had timers that could heat your block up Sunday night, have it warm for Monday morning, and only use 3 amps and 2.5 gallons of fuel. This was even before Gen Set units you see on trucks anymore.

El Toro · Dec 23, 2008

Those loggers need a Kim Start tank heater and a Kubota generator like this to power it. They can make a pot of hot coffee too. Hal

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Glen D Anderson · Dec 23, 2008

Ideally you want the the hoses from the donor/supply vehicle plumbed in this way:

1/ One hose connected to the suction side of the water pump to allow for circulation

2/ Other hose plumbed into the top of the cylinder head or underneath the thermostat housing to obtain the most amount of heat from the donor/supply engine

Installing a "Y" in each of the heater core circuit hoses will work providing there is a coolant shut-off valve in the circuit for the heater core AND it is shut off when you're trying to heat the cold engine, otherwise most of the coolant will take the path of least resistance and circulate through the heater core instead of the cold engine.........

The system works well but it can be hard on the donor/supply engine since the ice cold coolant from the cold engine can drastically reduce the operating temp. of the donor/supply engine...................

Using the hyd. couplers is a given for ease of connection................

That type of system was used for many years on the equipment in our area but has since been abandoned in favour of diesel fired heaters produced by companies such as Webasto, Pro - Heat, etc.............

rrlund · Dec 23, 2008

Used to see ads for a store bought kit for that sort of thing. Don't remember off hand who made it.

Mike M · Dec 23, 2008

Yup; that's him. He also "invented" Global Warming.

JDemaris · Dec 23, 2008

Yes, I worked on European and Canadian models over 30 years ago, but not very common in the US. Air-cooled Volkswagens had one version the ran on gasoline and was used for cabin heat. Made by same company that makes the diesel heaters.

John M · Dec 23, 2008

I would be more concerned about the compatabilty of the coolants used in each before I hooked the 2 together.

Phillip Tibbetts · Dec 23, 2008

Yup and now he has a Nobel Prize. Just goes to show a good convincing lie will beat the truth every time. Mean while he is sitting in his multimillion dollar home riding around in his multimillion dollar jet sucking up 50 times as much energy as we do. Of course I'm sure the energy he uses doesn't cause global warming, only what we use.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 23, 2008

He owns a company that buys and sells "carbon credits" so I'm sure he is carbon neutral.

OhioD14 · Dec 23, 2008

The planet is also carbon neutral.

John B. · Dec 23, 2008

The red and green coolant is compatable they say now. I've mixed the two and had no problems.

This sounds like a great idea when there's no electricity available.

bruster · Dec 23, 2008

Yup, dat fur sur!
Das is FINE German engineering

The brother in law has a 69 VW bug, with a gas heater, loves it, and wouldn't trade it for the world

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