O/T Calif. to impose diesel truck restrictions

Anonymous-0 · Dec 12, 2008

The state of calif law makers just imposed strict restrictions on diesel trucks. This law just passed is to require all trucks over 26,000 lbs operating on calif roads to install exhaust filters. This is going to cost about 12,000.00 for each truck. or install a new engine, or buy a new truck. Your state could be next. Oh yea this is to help to stop global warming. This is what happens when you have a state full of tree huggers. Tractors to follow just wait and see. Stan

Mike M · Dec 12, 2008

T. Boone Pickens now has a "captive" market for his CNG semi trucks.

Lasiter · Dec 12, 2008

Just another case of trying to raise money for a failed state. They welcome illegals with open arms and they don't care if the men marry men and women marry women.They hate the military for allowing them to be free. They don't really need trucks in California. Majority of the people that live there like to sit in trees, they can pass the cargo from tree to tree. Plenty of work for the truckers in other parts of the nation.

Fordman6442 · Dec 12, 2008

Maybe they should control the big wigs that rebuild their houses each year just to have them burn down. I am sure more crap goes up with their valuables than any truck can produce. A Canadian that gets tired of the whining of the US of A but does nothing about it.

Dave2N · Dec 13, 2008

That's just a hint of what's coming. The environmental "moonbats" are going to ruin the country and the economy too.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2008

Cal. has thousands of diesels localizing at the docks. Add the soot from the idling ships and you choke. Open to suggestions.

ericlb · Dec 13, 2008

it will be interesting to see what happens when trucking companies having trucks without those filters simply refuse to run to california, can you say food and goods shortages? it use to be evrybody use to look to california to see what the latest fad was, now i think its time to let a state run by tree huggers with no brains, burned out ex hippies,and other extreemest morons, become a example of what happens when these kinds of people are allowed to run things,a lot of good people in ca, but their lawmakers should be run out,

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2008

I just heard about this on another site,, it is amazing,, I remember back in my trucking days close to 10 yrs ago when running otr,, they were trying to make a huge depot on the edge of nevada and california to stop diesels from coming into the state especially LA area,, you could see teh smog just hanging over the city even back then,,

It never came to pass, but I see they never gave up on it,, IF this goes thru I can see a lot of trucking companies either going out of business on the left coast, or / and alot of companies stopping at the border and saying come get your stuff CALIF.

either way Its going to hurt the truckers,, diesel is fuel, fuel burns dirty, exhaust goes in the air,, nothing you can do about that,they already took most of the lubricating properties out of fuel,

I want to see a electric or solar powered big rig ,a haha especially when you get on teh north side of the leftist state lots of hills, there wont be any holding back power at all, they already have jake brakes almost outlawed in some areas over there,, can you say safety neglect??

ok my rant is over,, but sonmetimes the scary thing is the rest of the country follows the left coast and hurts plenty,,

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2008

I drive a new Volvo with the D13 Volvo engine {430hp}. It has 25,000 miles. It has that new muffler with the soot filter. About every 900 miles it regenerates itself {cleans the filter}. It is advised not to park inside a wooden structure or under a tree branch when this occurs due to the extreme heat that is put out. The exhaust pipe is as clean now as it was at 0 miles.

BobReeves · Dec 13, 2008

If I owned a railroad I would put terminals in Arizona and rail the trailers in.. Someone probably already doing it..

trucker40 · Dec 13, 2008

That would be Schneider and JB Hunt to name a few.

greygoat · Dec 13, 2008

Similar is already being done to the railroads !
Older locomotives can't,(aren't supposed to) go
into California, because of exhaust smoke.
Since 75 to 80 % of older locomotives are
General Motors 2 cycle diesels, its causing
some problems. Railroad shops are now doing
exhaust emissions testing. Newer locomotives
with electronic fuel injection are doing ok. Older
ones are just big, 3000 horse, "Detroit Diesels",
with mechanical injection.

NCWayne · Dec 13, 2008

They have that covered too, at least on the truck side of things. Their forcing any trucks operating in or around the docks to use the particulate filters, etc to reduce emissions, and if I recall the article I read correctly, they are also using electric trucks where possible.

Brian Jasper co. Ia · Dec 13, 2008

As of 1/1/07 all on-road diesel engines are required to have a DPF (diesel particulate filter). Like Mark says, don't park where there is combustible material near the exhaust. At least on the GM Duramax they will only regenerate while driving if needed.

dhermesc · Dec 13, 2008

That would help explain why California is dying.

KEB1 · Dec 13, 2008

California is like a big bowl of granola...what's not fruits and nuts is flakes. (from an ex resident)

Actually, there's been a significant difference in the cleanliness of the air since the 60's & 70's, and I for one would not like to go back to the old days of smog. I also wouldn't want to go back to the old engines that got poor gas mileage and were doing real well to go 1o0K miles without an overhaul.

I'll reserve comment on the diesel particulate filters since I don't have any info on how much difference they will actually make. There has to be a little bit of common sense applied to these kinds of requirements, and while on the surface something may seem onerous or dumb, it often turns out to be a good idea.

I remember when catalytic converters first started appearing on cars - heard all the same sorts of dire predictions. Bow I think just about everyone agrees they're a good idea.

Biggest single problem is just that people are resistant to change.

Keith

Ray · Dec 13, 2008

The exhaust filters cost around 5000 per unit.They can be recharged around 100000 miles.A local trucking company here in ohio bought 60 new freightliner trucks with no engines and installed factory rebuilt cummins engines from older trucks that don't have to meet the new regulations.The trucks they have that meet the new regulations use more fuel by about 2-3 mpg.

GeneMO · Dec 13, 2008

Maybe someday California will slide off into the ocean. Too bad we can't move Chicago out there so it would slide off too.

Gene

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2008

Simple Solution for that! Boycott California. Truckers refuse to enter state, it's that simple. Everything they buy or sell gets moved by truck, so, see how long they will do without.

Mark - IN. · Dec 13, 2008

Stan, don't get me going on that man made global warming stuff, it's nearing the Christmas Holidays and I'm supposed to be in a cheerful mood. So...we're not going to get into global warming, water meters on private wells, and stuff like that. No Stan, what we're going to do is put balloons on our stacks to collect the diesel exhaust, take those balloons home and compress the contents into cans and mail them to politicians. That way when they open them in offices paid for by we the tax payers whom they cockroach off of, their sexretaries, male and female that we tax payers pay for, will hear a loud "POOF" coming from their offices, only to open the door to a sooty room and some crooked politician sitting a huge leather seat that we tax payers pay for...looking like Buckwheat from "Our Gang".

Ya see Stan, I almost lost it there, came mighty close too...but 'tis the season and I just aint about to let some more crooked politicians looking for more ways to scam us tax payers ruin it for me. Not today. HoHoHo, Merry Christmas.

Mark

MN Scott · Dec 13, 2008

My 08 Duramax regens in park. You have to be driving with it up to operating temp but if it is in a regen mode it will continue while in park. Mine regens about once every tank of fuel no matter how I drive it. Its always easy to tell with the slightly faster idle and that "smell" and the fuel readout on the DIC dropping to 10 MPG.

MN Scott · Dec 13, 2008

The DPF has nothing to do with global warming. The filters give no reduction in CO the warming gas, that is still to come. They just trap the particulates and soot from burning diesel and gassify it at computer determined intervals. Supposed to make cleaner air. My 08 Silverado has a DPF. I can run it in the shop and I smell no "Diesel" smell just a slight sweet smell. It is next to impossable to retofit an older engine with the filter as it requires a powerful computer system to run the regen cycles. They did the same thing to contruction equipment last year, guess who was the cheif lobby, CATERPILLIAR.

DJM75 · Dec 14, 2008

always said california was the land of fruits and nuts.

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