Opinions on Allis D-19

We're going to look at an Allis D-19 with a loader tommorrow. I've had good experiences with the D-17, both series I and series III. I was just wondering what some might think of this model of tractor.

I know that a lot fewer were built than the D17. Is parts availability a problem? Are there parts likely to be common with the D17? How much fuel is the tractor likely to burn in a full day of work? This one has the gas engine.

What sort of things tend to go wrong with these?

What kind of work can it do? If I were to pull a chisel plow with it, how many shanks could it pull? Would it run a decent round baler?

I've got two sets of tires for my D-17, one air filled and the other loaded with fluid. Would either of these fit on the D-19?

Anyone who has experience with these, I would welcome your insights.

Thank you in advance.

Christopher

D 19 is a 6 cylinder instead of a 4 cylinder , will probably use more gas. I think the tires on the 19 are 38" and won't work on a 17, the axles are different. Don't know about your soil type, might be able to pull 9 shanks. Never had one, been around them a little, that's the best I can do ya. Chris

A D-19 gas is good for 70hp on the pto. The diesel version is good for 66hp on the pto. Just make sure it works in all gears with no jump out. The diesel version doesn't like to be lugged. They need to be warmed up fully before working and allowed to idle to cool off afterwards. Your D-17 wheels won't work. The D-19 has straight through rear axles and doesn't have drop boxes like the 17 does.

I own a 1962 D19 diesel. I bought it in 1971, used it for several years, sold it to my father, and inherited it back when he died in 1985. I've had it around ever since.

It's been a fairly trouble free tractor, haven't had any chronic problems. One thing I'd check on one you're thinking of buying is to put a heavy load on it in 2nd gear on the transmission (3rd and 5th on final drive) and see if it jumps out of gear. That's the main field gear. Mine will on a heavy load, but the way I use it I don't subject it to heavy loads anymore.

To me, they're a nice driving tractor. When I was farming and had an 856 Farmall for my main tractor, I always said if it weren't for the cab, duals, and 30 more horsepower, I'd just as soon drive the D19.

As far as a chisel goes, I've heard a rule of thumb that it takes 10 horsepower per shank. I proved this by pulling an 11 shank chisel with a 105 hp 856, and a 13 shank chisel with a rented 130 hp 1086. I'd say a D19 would handle an 8 or 9 shank chisel, depending on the soil. A 17 foot tandem disc with the wheels picked up was about all the disc it will handle.

I run it on an old whirlwind terracer to clean out and shape waterways, and that's about the hardest I work it anymore. I mainly just use it to mow weeds, blade the driveway, etc. Not that it isn't ready for harder work. It's actually more tractor than I need for what I use it for, but--I already own it.

D19's came with either 36" or 38" rear wheels, depending on the dealer who ordered them. Mine has 16.9x38 rears. Neither will interchange onto a D17, as someone else said.

The last part I needed for mine was a pulley for the power steering pump and had no problem ordering it through the local Agco dealer. When the generator went kaput a couple of years ago, I fabricated a bracket, converted it to a GM alternator and switched to a negative ground. I'd already switched to two 12 volt batteries in parallel instead of two 6 volt in series.

Basically, it's been a good old workhorse over the years. I'd like to restore it, but just like my 1952 H Farmall, I use it enough that I don't want to tie it up for the time it would take.

Hope this helps.

Bought one in the late 70's. Love it. Have a quick tach loader on it. Works good, only the hyd. are a little slow on loader. Pull a 504 Silage I bale and it works great, plenty of power. Sure is nice not to have to hold the foot clutch in when baling. Two thing right off to look for, does the hand clutch stay in on the high side. It can be adjusted if don't. Not a simple job. Does the lift arms creep down with a load on them. If does will only get worse. I need to put some oil seals in the rear end on mine. Talked to a AC man the other day and he said they were one of the easier tractors to work on.

I've got a D19 gas that I bought about 10 years ago. It has the usual problems of jumping out of the high side. I've never really worked it that hard because it is just a spare tractor but I imagine it would use a tank of fuel in about 8 hours. It is a strong tractor for its size with a good weight ratio. Mine has 18.4x34 rears and all I have seen have the same size. But other areas may have had the 36 or 38". Mine has a factory 3pt and I had to change out the valve with a aftermarket but it works fine.

When I said 36" or 38" rears, I meant 34".

My brother in law had one and pulled 4-16's with a buster bar . He said she liked her gas but he figured it was more fuel efficient than both of his 17's were . As long as you don't weigh the 19 down and try to do more than she's suppose to the drive train will hold up . His dynoed at 88 hp. My 2 cents.....