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Was looking in Gemplers, but really just don't know what type to get, they show a drop center type that does not pinch the tube, need to figure this one out, see if anyone has them local, have the time tomorrow, drawing a blank on what type to get, possibly Napa carries these ? Not much faith in TSC, Gemplers has everything, seemingly good quality spoons, tube, valve, ballast valve etc. last resort will have to order out and wait.

Other thing is, what's best when dismounting/mounting a tractor tire, just a 13.6 x 28, leave the rim on the axle or take it off, work on the flat ? I had one done off the tractor once, tire guy mounted and filled the tire, had to clean and paint the rim, not sure what the tire guys prefer,on/off the tractor bead will break easily on this one.

She's been on a jack stand since the valve flew out, interesting scenario, leaking CACL out the stem, it corrodes the hole for the valve stem and makes it sharp like a knife, eventually the valve shears right off.
 
My self I prefer to work on them off the tractor then if your going to fill them with fluid mount them on the tractor then fill with fluid. The tire irons I use have a flat curved end on one ends and a drop down end on the other. Thats the type I learned to use decades ago and have had good luck with them. My self I would check with a tire dealer and he should be able to get you a set in just a few days from his supplier
Hobby farm
 
Yeah, I'll call the one tire outfit and see what the deal is on those, figured being mounted for filling with ballast would be best, just could not recall what these guys prefer when breaking them down and remounting, can imagine a stubborn bead would have to be off the tractor to get the best leverage.
 
I have a mowing business. There"s 6 tractors right now. Mowing hi-way right-of-ways, we get our share of flats. Taking a tire/wheel off the tractor takes too much time. I prefer to break down the bead with the rim still attached to the tractor. These make the job incredably easy.

http://www.shoupparts.com/catalog/view.cfm?bmkName=5500&ID=5355&Type=Product&FolderID=95285
 
I have NEVER seen a tire shop take a wheel/rim off the tractor to replace a tire/fix a flat; not saying it doesn't happen, but in 50-plus years dealing with (wheeled) tractors, I never seen it.
 
If you have calcium eating at the rim, best take the tire off and paint the rim after it gets clean. It's almost like acid, once it begins rusting the beads. You don't want to just fix or replace the tube without preping the rim (saves grief later on) Otherwise, most other work can be done with the tire on the rim.
 
When the rims are rusty around the bead, the tire not having been off for years and not having a power bead breaking tool I do it with the rim off.
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Thanks for the link to those photos, that is one way of squashing it down, with a jackstand and cribbing, I could roll the tire around the front and use the loader, just have to be careful to crib it up right and not have it fall. Probably won't need to do that, have used the loader for a hoist with a wheel off, just have to put on the counterweight first, was quite stable, cribbed up to the old backhoe frame under the rear axle.

This one, I can push the tire off with my hands, well the outside bead at least, then just a matter of working the other side over with the spoons. Been on there, was a new rim, tire and tube in '02, just that the installer screwed up and I let it go.
 
This is true, I did that to the other rim, sand blasted er and painted with zinc rich galv spray, old rim with no damage, exposed steel sure does corrode at a steady rate once in contact with the CACL, this one is probably only corroded at the valve stem, which I'll have to repair and make smooth, new hole etc.
 
I've seen those before, a real good tool to have, I'd have one and a spare or 2 mounted in your situation, the down time does add up, think I can get away with a pair of spoons, was able to pop it off the bead with my hands.
 
If you have the tire pushed back you will want to push the tire bead to the center of the rim on the opposit side you are using the spoon. That gives the bead room to come over the rim. I use the spoon and two large screwdrivers. Before I bought the spoon I just used three large screwdrivers. Really easier when on the tractor when they are not rusted fast.
 
I always remove the wheels myself rather than fight them on the tractor, but I've got a 3/4" gun and a loader to handle them. I never had much enthusiam for breaking the inside bead with a maul. It's a lot easier on the ground...
The bars I use a 36". One straight end and one spooned end. For tubeless tires. I get them at Parts For Trucks but NAPA probably has them too.
Lately I've been mounting the tires tubeless which seems to work pretty good. They're going on dry. No more CaCl either. Too muh trouble with tubes shearing their stems in radial tires...

Rod
 
Hi Billy,

I change/repair the tire with the wheel mounted on the tractor. To me this is alot easier for me.

I use a wood splitting maul with a single jack hammer for breaking the bead. I dulled the maul edge with a sander. I place the maul edge at the steel too bead joint, tap easy once, move 3" and tap again, repeat until the bead pops, about 18". Repeat to pop the inside bead. I have yet failed to break the bead using this method.

Don't try and force the bead with harder/repeated hammer blows as it just won't help. The bead moves away very slowly, one blow at a time. I always had the bead pop with-in 18".

I then use two 24", 7/8" crow bars with the nose sanded to work the tire off the rim. I since have bought a 30" Kline tire spoon that works well on drop center rims.

Depending on the tire, some times I use a 50/50 mix of dish soap/water to help with hard mounting places.

It takes me about 1hr to break a tire down, patch and replace the tube and I'm crippled up.

I agree, drill a new stem hole and patch the old hole. Grind/sand to a very smooth finish.

T_Bone
 
They make a wedge you can hit with a hammer for tires.Tubeless truck tire tools I think is what you were describing.One end is flat and the other has a drop down curve to it.With 2 of those tire tools like that,a wedge,and a sledge with a shortened handle to hit the wedge with one hand and the other hand to hold the wedge,you can break them down on the tractor or on the floor.Works on car tires,big truck tires,any kind of tire.I even have had to use the wedge to break down a tire that I couldnt get with a tire hammer.
 
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