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I have an 029 farm boss made by Stihl 18" bar....great saw, I paid $340 in 1998. It has been great, but I would like to get another saw maybe a Jonserd, Oregon Power match. I have seen a Oregon pw match several years ago, big 3 foot bar. If you had to pick best saw for an all wooded lot, + sawing up 12" round logs 40 feet long into logs for splitting which would you pick?
I am thinking about another Stihl, 18" bar. I want another one due to the fact that mine is well used but not worn out and I want a spare just in case. Is Oregon Pw. match still around, I dont know where to get one. I have thought about Huskvarna, but.....I have used them but they seem a little wimpy compared to my Stihl of the same size.
Homelite, Crapsman, Poulan are all out....all too wimpy, I have seen all of these and they are for the suburb guy that has a few branches to cut up.
Let the opinions rifle off........
 
after you leave a husky you might as well get a axe or handsaw we have sold stihl and husky and there is no comparison
 
Husqvarna hands down is my saw of choice.

I've had experience with most of the consumer saws you mentioned including the Stihl 029 and this Husqvarna is by far the smoothest vibration free saw around.

I used the Rancher series saws and really liked them but ended up purchasing the 345, it's light, has good power and is pretty stingy on fuel (about 3 gallons to 10 cords of pulp)

Good luck!
 
bought a new Stihl last year ....hardest to start I ever had ...dealer worked on it 5 times & still would wear you out to get it to crank....factory would NOT stand behind it... finally just gave it to the dealer & told him he could have it....Kent
 
I have said it before, and I will say it again, Stihl is living on their name. They used to build a good saw,but they are going they way of Homelite and McCulloch, but now they want quantity over quality. Go to one of the arborists sites if you want to know what is the best. Dolmar saws are still German made, and anyone who has owned one will tell you they cannot be beat. FYI, Husqarna is the same company that makes Poulan and Poulan Pro.
 
I have 371 & 394 xp huskys, and an 041 stihl. My dad has a newer 044. The stihl (044) is very reliable, but underpowered and slooow (1000rpm deficit) compared to the 371. It is also VERY sensitive to raker height, contradictive to those who claim they make more torque. On a side note, the 041 is a very early non av saw, has been heavily used in the last 45 or so years, and has been trouble free.

The fire dept. bought a new 575xp, and it makes the 371 seem like a paperweight.

Someone on here said that his 046 was on par with a 395xp size husky/jonsered. Truth is, an 066 is very comperable, exept you have to clean the air filter twice a day, and it is slooower. (chain speed = productivity)

Stihl has recently overhauled their line, giving them "air injection", something husqvarna/Jonsered have been doing for twenty years. rpms are up, too.

You pays yer money, you makes your choice. You won"t be sorry with any pro model from germany or sweden.
 
I just went to the Dolmar power products site, looks like some nice saws. I searched the dealer locator and there is a dealer 10 miles from me, I have to go there and see for myself.
 
See if they can get a demo unit from their distributor, I know my distributor has some if I need one.
Jim
 
Stihl MS361. It's a ~55 cc professional saw. Fairly light, balanced and good power. Easily handle what you describe, not that the 029 can't. It's just a bit slower.
If you want more power again, go with the MS440.
Husky and Jonsered are also both good saws if you get a pro saw, but I've always found them harder to start, and that's not a feature I care for...
I'd stay clear of any of the cheap homeowner type saws from any manufacturer, Poulan, McCulloch and a few others all completly. I don't know anything about Oregon or Dolmar but the others you list I'd stay clear of myself.

Rod
 
older husky/jonsereds required 4-6 pulls w/choke on, high idle set, to get gas in carb, then they'de lite up.

The new saws have a bulb primer. First pull, most times, like the stihl, but without the goofy ignition, choke, 1/2 choke switch that you have to take your gloves off to use.
 
Sounds like the dealer. I was at a dealer on Wed. Customer came in with pro series trimmer with starting issues under warranty. They couldn't get it to start right off and gave him a new one.
 
maybe, but I also called the factory HOTLINE & got no help.....got this saw to run [2] times in a year....dealer never did get it to start....won't buy anymore Stihl products....Kent
 
Sure like this 61 rancher I got at a flea market for $150. Its a older model with very little plastic. I can bog it down though when Im in a big cut like 20 inches or so but I suppose that might help save the bar and chain from my heavy hands. Husky or Jonsered get my money.

scott#2
 
I own a MS360 and my father in law has one two. My first one lasted 2 days then I went back and they gave me a new one as they couldnt fix my original one as they couldnt figure out what was wrong with it and i wanted a new one anyway. I have heard Stihl makes three grades of saws. Homeowner, Commercial and Professional Grade. Not sure the difference but I presume you get what you pay for. I have a neighbor that has a Husquvarna and he loves his. I have no quams with my 360. I put a 20" bar on it and logged out a 1 mile road here in missouri and most of the logs were from 65 to 110 year old oak and hickory. I had 6 semi loads hauled to the mill that were made into a log house here on the property. I did modify the muffler as it seemed very doggy at first as I would have to saw through both sides of those logs. They were BIG. I drilled some extra holes in it and think I took some piece of something out of there and man does it run better. It will flat pop the tip up on the bar now when you crack the throttle. IT doesnt rap up as high ss some of the smaller CC saws but it runs out pretty darn nice and will dip right through those big logs. I have a FS40 weed eater that I bought when I got married in 91 and have put one head and one spark plug in it since then. I have heard Oregon and Echo saws are pretty good too.
 
In MY opinion, R.P.M.s are what makes a chainsaw! Check out the different brands and I think you will see that Huskvarna is the higher rpm saw, or at least they were 25 years ago when I bought my 40 Huskvarna. They are also lighter. My 40 has been virtually trouble free and starts on the first or second pull. I know products have changed but my my next saw will be a Huskvarna.
 
Well, the way I see it there are about 4 brands to choose from. You have your junk... Craftsman, Poulan, etc. Then you have the one's I have only heard of but it has been all good. Those are the Dolmar's. And finally you have two that are used by all the tree companies around here and by the Ax-Men. Now if the fella's who cut trees for a living use them they must be good. Those last two are Husky's and Stihl's. I've seen good and bad of both brands but with as many in use as there are I suppose you'll find a lemon now and then. Personally like the Stihl's and a company the sponsors a whole championship sawing series can't be too bad. Check the link to the most powerful saw I have ever seen!
Scary powerful saw
 
Get a stihl. The ms360 rocks. But I got a secret trick for you. When you're at the dealer, inform him you know how to handle a saw and don't need the low-kickback chain, you want the 'chisel' chain.

Then you'll get a saw that will do a day's work. You can thank me later.
 
We've never really owned a very large saw, but then again, we've never really needed a gigantic saw. A pair of Stihl 025 saws with 16" bars are more than enough for what we do, and they have both seen plenty of work in our small pecan grove.

What is truly the best saw, I really can't say without being severly biased. I've only had experience with the 025, my uncle's 026 with an 18" bar, and a couple of cheap craftsman, homelite, or some other low quality pain in the butt saw. For me it is the Stihl 025. The 026 had more power, but it also was a pound or two heavier. If the 025 has enough power for what we need, then that's what I want to carry because those things start getting heavy near the end of a day.

Kevin
 
The Husky was one of the best balanced and easiest saws I have ever run but they will not take the abuse that a Stihl will.

And that's a fact.

Jim
 
I have three mid size saws. A jonsared, a dolmar, and a shandawa. They are all good saws but for equal size, the jonsared will outcut the others in any kind of wood. I have tried to kill it but cannot. Last winter, I cut a tree down on it and drove it in the ground about 3 inches but that was not enough. A week later I ran over it with the rear wheel of a tractor. Still that did not kill it. I just straightened it out and it keeps on sawing. I guess that when I do finally kill it that will be it because there is no jonsared dealerships close to me. It must be at least 15 years old. I would buy another one if a dealership was convenient.
 
Hmmmm, guess I"ll have to go out in the morn and throw my 10 yr old JUNK poulan in the dumpster after cutting 20+ cord a year.It will be a shame condidering it still starts on the second pull but hey junk is junk right???
 
You know you're going to get a million different answers, don't you? I've got a Stihl 320 and 360, both with 24" bars and 1/4" chains. They're ok so long as I've got the R's cranked, and they are high RPM saws. The 360's timing changes for load though, the 320 doesn't. They're both serious gas hogs too. I just picked up a 670 Echo, but aint used it yet. 24" bar, 1/4" chain and another seriously high RPM saw. Its supposed to be industrial grade, and it'll probably do fine after I file down those depth guards on the chain first so it can even get a decent bite, I suppose. I got it while dropping off my old Lombard with a 24" bar and 1/4" chain. Now, that's by far my favorite and most used. It's lower RPM than the others, but I can stall it in a cut, restart it and take off in a cut, horizontal too. I can't do that with my Stihls, and doubt I can do it with the Echo. I'll take that old Lombard over any one of them. It's absolutely getting fixed (warn bushings), cause I aint never giving it up. I guess it depends on what you're going to do with it. One or two guys cutting, another guy sharpening the other saw(s) into the rotation. I start with my Lombard, I finish with my Lombard until the small stuff. I've got an old Homelite with an 18" bar and an old McCulloch with a 14" bar, both 5/32" chains. They make good bucket saws cause they're lite, and they can handle smaller stuff. A 3/8" chain would be nicer if my saws had the guts for it, but I'm sure none of them do and I aint paying the kind of money for a saw dependable enough to handle a 3/8" chain. Mine do OK for what I need them to do though.

Good luck.

Mark
 
You know, I aint never had a Poulan but have heard they made some great saws. I don't know if they make them anymore or not. Heard they made kick... saws though. Might be in the same boat as me and my old Lombard though, parts are getting harder to find. I know a guy that was a Poulan dealer that gave a free one to an Amish Elder so he'd allow them (chainsaws) into their community, then made some good $$$ selling to the Amish around me. Now, there's some thinking. Give a little, get a whole lot more back.

Mark
 
Jonsered and Husky are pretty much the same machine. A lot of it is personal preference. You have to compare equal saws. A Stihl will usually cost more than a Husky. Dolmar, Echo and a host of others have got good reviews. Dave
 
i buy 2 18" Poulans at a time, $139 each, and run 'em til I kill- and it's always my fault. Bought a new pair last year- dropped a tree on one of my first pair (after 6 years) and busted it, so I gave the other to my boy and bought two more.
Some say they're junk- but mine have never failed to fire when I needed 'em, and for the price of one Stihl I have one to use and one to cut the other free. This is Virginia, not Texas or the Mid-West: we have trees aplenty, and big ones. Out here, a tree is part of a forest, not a damn landmark, so we cut a pile. As a result of the last storm, I diced up 5 or 6 100 foot plus oaks (probably 25" diameter at the base)yesterday off the fenceline and my junk poulans never missed a beat.
Love the look and feel of the high dollar saws...but I have a Poulan wallet, and they get the job done for me.
 
I like all the comments here.
I like to get opinions from guys who have cut lots and lots of trees and firewood. I dont like hearing from a store clerk on what is good and what is not, besides he would have to push the brand he is selling. My 029 farm boss Stihl had problems at first, like....after a month the RPMs went to 1/2 of what it initially did, took it to my dealer and they removed a restrictor plate or something, ran fine after that, that was 10 years ago. Stihl makes a good saw, I really want to see a Dolmar, I might get one.
Remember guys, dont buy bar/chain oil. Just filter that used motor oil and keep the bar/chain lubed before use by pouring out a little oil right on the chain. I also dip the bar into oil before use. I havent bought bar/chain oil in 3 years. With the high cost of oil I aint buying bar/chain oil anymore. Used oil is cheap. What does a quart of bar/chain oil cost now, $4 maybe, dont know.
2 of my neighbors have Husqvarnas and they have a hard time starting them, in fact 3 weeks ago my neighbor couldnt get his Husky running and I went over and got my Stihl, ran like a &aped ape all day, 4 big trees all dropped and logged up.
4 years ago the road commision dropped a large oak at the road, (4 feet at the base) and as I was out at the road cutting it up a fella drives up to me and says "can I have some of those logs" I said yeah, help me clean this schitt up. Next day this guy comes back with a brand new Stihl, 24" bar BIG SAW....$500 too. Yikes!, that saw was incredible.

When I first bought my land 10 years ago I starting cutting up trees and had piles of logs laying around. I literally gave away enough hardwood logs to fill several 10 yard dump trucks. I kinda regret giving away 10 years worth of firewood but I had to get rid of it. I hope that I get a pay back later in life.
Yesterday I dropped and cut up a 50' dead ash tree, 8" diameter at the base, straight as an arrow.
Thanks for the comments.
 
I have a Sears Craftsman Pro model made by Poulan that I bought new in 1986 and it has cut a lot of firewood. It is a little heavy for a 75 year man now, but it will cut logs without any effort.

It wouldn't start and found out it wasn't getting any gas a few weeks ago. Called Sears and they said no carbuertor kits or parts are available do to the age of saw. Called Poulan and they said the same thing except they transferred my call to another person and I told him about needing a carb kit he gave a toll free number to call and said he thought they would have a kit. I called the number and gave him the Tillotson carb number
and he had a kit for $7.00 including shipping. One of those diaphrams is the fuel pump and saw is now running like new. I almost sent it to the
scrapyard. Hal
PS: That company is V.E. Peterson in Ohio and their number is 1-800-537-6212.
 
I buy Poulan too. Every time I think I need one of those big name brand I get screwed. Bought both Stihl and Husqvarna and neither started or lasted like the Poulan.
 
I grew up running Stihl saws, but when I started looking for a saw to buy I went to Husky. I spent several years building log houses, and quite often ran a saw all day. Huskies are smooooth running, strong saws. Never had a problem with any of them. I ran a 359 w/ a 24" oregon bar for several years, and loved it, then accidentily went into the saw shop on pay day once. Ended up leavin w/ a 372xp w/ 24" and 32" Oregon bars and a few more chains. Thought I'd died and gone to heaven. I can do the really precision work better w/ the 24" on that 372 than I can w/ my little 41 or 359. That big saw has enough power and weight so it won't skip or bind, and won't give me any extra opportunity to foul up someone's $100k log package.
I Just use chains untill they gut a little shabby and set them aside. Take 8 or 10 into the saw shop at a time and let him sharpen them for $8 each. If I was workin outside in the dirt, and went through chains faster, I'd buy a grinder setup and do it myself.
The guy that owns the shop has become a friend. He worked in the woods for years then opened the shop and he sold Stihls exclusively. Said several years ago their quality took a big nose dive and he switched to Huskies. Just all around darned good saws!

Ben
 
It's a fun topic, everytime it gets brought up here, there is never a shortage of responses as well as variances of performance experiences in a wide array of applications.

Now I suppose I'm a fan of the Stihl line, though I've had others, started with my fathers late 60's 08S Stihl which was a decent saw for a farm and for doing moderate work, like a couple of cords per year. I use a MS390, my friend has a MS361, both about the same size and = HP, both get moderate use, firewood and some tree cutting. After a few years neither has been much trouble, MS361 is probably the better of the 2. They don't get used everyday 8 hrs/day throughout the year, but still get some heavy use at times.

It seems that with so many different applications and arrangements of saws, you need to set one up to your specific needs, using a reliable model as a platform. Hard to say what I'd want different if I was cutting everyday, more HP, more aggressive chain and minimizing maintenance.

On that note, the MS390 I have, think it's an '02 model, does get a little tempermental, can be hard starting...... now why is that, well they do need to be serviced regularly. 1 week ago, during that high heat and humidity, which is the worst kind of weather I want to run a saw in to cut wood and handle same, this one made 2 cuts and would not start eventually, would run then stall, like it was fuel starved. Some would immediately condemn the saw for that.

Removed the air filter, (was heavily restricted with sawdust) cleaned same with compressed air, vacuumed up particles that fell onto the carb choke flap when I removed it, don't want a speck of that in there. Removed spark plug, cleaned same, checked fuel tank filter, was clean, tank had been flushed earlier this year, chain was just sharpened, tension good. Also move that black plastic air breather cover was set on the snowflake position, I reversed it to the sun position ( Winter/ Summer )

1 pull it fired on full choke, move lever up and it fires on the next pull, stays running, have chain brake on, hit the trigger to release throttle so as not to strain the clutch and it's running like when it was new. It cut and performed like new.

People have different ideas of maintainance, I think a chainsaw has to be maintained with a certain degree of detail and meticulous'ness that not everyone subscribes to, for it to perform well. It's one of the pieces of equipment that gets an attentive eye around here, because it's also a very dangerous thing to operate, prior to doing any serious cutting, I'll give it a full service, knowing that if I don't it could let me down. I do cut some dry and dead wood, that creates a lot of dry dust that loads up the air filter, even with the intelli-carb, it eventually chokes out, so it's really a must to keep up on maintainance. It's also good to keep it in a field ready condition at all times, we get lots of wind at times and trees go down, nice to have a saw ready to go.


Bar Oil, I'll totally disagree on that, used motor oil is nasty, the physical properties of each are significantly different, my father used it in his 08S and the bar shows it, ( I've yet to re-furbish that saw for back up, needs a few things). Bar oil clings more than motor oil, does not have metal fines and other contaminants in it, and I firmly believe it outperforms used motor oil contrary to any cost savings My MS 390 with Stihl Bar Oil in it, with the oiler set on max, using correct weather grade, keeps that chain well lubed, ( it does help to clean that chain groove on the bar ) it's set on max. oil, and at high rpm, will leave a slight oil spray pattern if you check it. Not sure if that oiler has any restriction, can remember it flinging more oil when it was new, though maybe that was before it was broke in a little. Would have to research that, but thinking it must be working as designed the chain does stay well oiled, it uses about a tank of oil to a tank of fuel on this setting when doing heavy cutting, sometimes a little less, I'd have to cut a lot of wood to use 2 gallons of bar oil per year, no way I'd use anything else, it's a matter of a opinion, but after looking at a worn out bar on a saw that got similar use, does not seem, feasible to run.
 
It's a fun topic, everytime it gets brought up here, there is never a shortage of responses as well as variances of performance experiences in a wide array of applications.

Now I suppose I'm a fan of the Stihl line, though I've had others, started with my fathers late 60's 08S Stihl which was a decent saw for a farm and for doing moderate work, like a couple of cords per year. I use a MS390, my friend has a MS361, both about the same size and = HP, both get moderate use, firewood and some tree cutting. After a few years neither has been much trouble, MS361 is probably the better of the 2. They don't get used everyday 8 hrs/day throughout the year, but still get some heavy use at times.

It seems that with so many different applications and arrangements of saws, you need to set one up to your specific needs, using a reliable model as a platform. Hard to say what I'd want different if I was cutting everyday, more HP, more aggressive chain and minimizing maintenance.

On that note, the MS390 I have, think it's an '02 model, does get a little tempermental, can be hard starting...... now why is that, well they do need to be serviced regularly. 1 week ago, during that high heat and humidity, which is the worst kind of weather I want to run a saw in to cut wood and handle same, this one made 2 cuts and would not start eventually, would run then stall, like it was fuel starved. Some would immediately condemn the saw for that.

Removed the air filter, (was heavily restricted with sawdust) cleaned same with compressed air, vacuumed up particles that fell onto the carb choke flap when I removed it, don't want a speck of that in there. Removed spark plug, cleaned same, checked fuel tank filter, was clean, tank had been flushed earlier this year, chain was just sharpened, tension good. Also move that black plastic air breather cover was set on the snowflake position, I reversed it to the sun position ( Winter/ Summer )

1 pull it fired on full choke, move lever up and it fires on the next pull, stays running, have chain brake on, hit the trigger to release throttle so as not to strain the clutch and it's running like when it was new. It cut and performed like new.

People have different ideas of maintainance, I think a chainsaw has to be maintained with a certain degree of detail and meticulous'ness that not everyone subscribes to, for it to perform well. It's one of the pieces of equipment that gets an attentive eye around here, because it's also a very dangerous thing to operate, prior to doing any serious cutting, I'll give it a full service, knowing that if I don't it could let me down. I do cut some dry and dead wood, that creates a lot of dry dust that loads up the air filter, even with the intelli-carb, it eventually chokes out, so it's really a must to keep up on maintainance. It's also good to keep it in a field ready condition at all times, we get lots of wind at times and trees go down, nice to have a saw ready to go.


Bar Oil, I'll totally disagree on that, used motor oil is nasty, the physical properties of each are significantly different, my father used it in his 08S and the bar shows it, ( I've yet to re-furbish that saw for back up, needs a few things). Bar oil clings more than motor oil, does not have metal fines and other contaminants in it, and I firmly believe it outperforms used motor oil contrary to any cost savings My MS 390 with Stihl Bar Oil in it, with the oiler set on max, using correct weather grade, keeps that chain well lubed, ( it does help to clean that chain groove on the bar ) it's set on max. oil, and at high rpm, will leave a slight oil spray pattern if you check it. Not sure if that oiler has any restriction, can remember it flinging more oil when it was new, though maybe that was before it was broke in a little. Would have to research that, but thinking it must be working as designed the chain does stay well oiled, it uses about a tank of oil to a tank of fuel on this setting when doing heavy cutting, sometimes a little less, I'd have to cut a lot of wood to use 2 gallons of bar oil per year, no way I'd use anything else, it's a matter of a opinion, but after looking at a worn out bar on a saw that got similar use, does not seem, feasible to run.
 
I'm not an expert by any means, but for me, it depends on what/how much work you are going to do with it and how much you want to spend? I have three different models of Stihl and various members of the family have different models of Husqvarna. They are both pretty good brands overall, but some models are better than others. I have an MS210 that I burned the bearings out of using it hard to cut firewood. Not the saws fault, but mine. Both brands have a homeowner, mid-grade, and professional grade. An idea would be to determine how much horsepower in the saw you wanted, and buy the lightest weight and highest grade saw you could afford. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
We run an MS360, 044 and 038 Super and all have 16" bars and 3/8 chains. We used to have the lighter chains and those saws were plain useless. I don't know how the 360 would do with a 3/8 chain on a 24" bar, but it's got pleny of power on the 16"...

Rod
 
I don't cut a lot of wood normally anymore so my druthers won't count for much I guess . I bought and use a Stihl MS460 with a 24" bar a number of years ago and it's OK . I don't know which class it falls under - homeowner , commercial or pro . I can cut continuously for hours on one tank of fuel it has such a large tank . It's fairly easy to stall though . It might need some TLC for that . First time it was out being used I lent it to a friend and a VERY large tree decided to fall in the wrong direction and the saw took a direct hit about 10 feet from the base . Broke it in half . The guy that borrowed it bought the new parts ( backbone , fuel tank and handle ) , I switched them out in an hour or so and all is OK years later . I use a old McCulloch Promac 24 I believe it is at work with a 24" bar and my BIL has the same one . THOSE are saws ! Heavy and aggressive ! Like holding onto a dirt bike engine when you rev them up . Don't like the weight but I couldn't stall one of those if I tried to ! To bad about McCulloch . ...Randy
 

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