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Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor

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Sunny 4 acres

03-19-2007 11:15:09
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First and formost I was wondering how much of a travel trailer a farmall H can pull on two miles of flat road from my place to the local park for a weekend trout derby. I was also wondering if their is a way to rig up a fifth wheel on a tractor so I can pull the neighbors travel trailer to. It sounds stupid but do you think it can be done?




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Leland Cole

03-19-2007 21:11:43
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
find a couple of old 1 ton truck axles and build a tamden converter somewhat like semis use for pulling doubles this would put all trailer weight on it and then your H could pull it easy it would take some learning to back up but it can be done .



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old

01-17-2008 07:28:46
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 Re: I-6 loader in reply to Hey old...., 01-17-2008 07:18:36  
Nope its close to Stover MO and is in very sad shape. The exhaust is open to let rain get into the engine and the spark plugs are out of the engine



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luapp

03-19-2007 18:43:11
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 Re: Best Tractor Built in reply to crackersanders, 03-19-2007 16:18:02  
every body forgot two of the best tractors ever built for their time and still not a bad tractor today. oliver 770 and 880 with 3pt. just my 2cnts.



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williamf

03-19-2007 14:26:43
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
My uncle has an arrangement not unlike what Tim..Ok describes. It's a fifth wheel on a dolly that he uses to move a his bulldozer around the farm on a lowboy. He doesn't use an H, though, he has a large fairly recent Case-International. As to how much an H will pull with a regular trailer hitch, mine has a 2" ball on the drawbar and it's pulled my little dump trailer loaded to a total weight of close to 7K. The only time it gave trouble was in deep sand. When the drawbar and the trailer axle both bottomed out everything stopped.
Good luck, Wm

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perry in mi

03-19-2007 13:55:49
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
if you & your nieghbor have trailers, then where are your trucks you haul them with. what goods a 5th wheel with no truck?????...



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mowr

03-19-2007 12:16:24
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
I agree with 'dds-inc'. "Highly unstable" as in flipping over backward when trying to pull from such a high point.



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Tim...Ok

03-19-2007 11:46:39
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
I'll comment on the 5th wheel..I've got what basically amounts to an axle with a solid tongue on the front,and a gooseneck ball mounted up above the axle..it works great for moving the trailers around the farm, sometimes places you wouldn't want to take your truck.. just have to get a little more creative to mount a 5th wheel on it, but sure it can be done.. just make sure your brakes are up to stopping it..

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Mike M

03-19-2007 12:27:07
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Tim...Ok, 03-19-2007 11:46:39  
I have used a setup like that for moving 5th wheel trailers. The only trouble I had was because of the dolly carrying the weight you get no weight transfer to the tractor back wheels to aid in traction.



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Tim...Ok

03-19-2007 13:34:24
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Mike M, 03-19-2007 12:27:07  
Very true Mike.. I was pulling a 20ft gooseneck with 11 round bale on it a few weeks ago with my little IH424..gotta go down in a bottom and up the other side..wasn't sure if it was gonna make it or not..it did,but right on the edge of losing traction..

Tim



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Glenn F.

03-19-2007 19:40:08
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 Re: Best Tractor Built in reply to MGTPa, 03-19-2007 16:34:55  
YES SIR!

Glenn F.



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Sunny 4 acres

03-19-2007 11:21:32
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
How much can an H pull at the drawbar for a reese hitch travel trailer



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dds-inc

03-19-2007 11:23:20
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:21:32  
That would be much better if you hooked the tractor up to a bumper hitch trailer. I imagine an H would pull a 2 axle trailer with another H sitting on top of it.



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Sunny 4 acres

03-19-2007 11:25:40
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to dds-inc, 03-19-2007 11:23:20  
Maybe I JD A could handle it better. The bumper hitch that is



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dds-inc

03-19-2007 11:19:37
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 Re: Putting a fifth wheel on a farm tractor in reply to Sunny 4 acres, 03-19-2007 11:15:09  
Too complicated for pulling a trailer 2 miles.

Besides, you will have dangerous issues such as the trailer pushing the tractor all over the road, the fornt end raising off the ground, and besides that, the load will have to be so high from the drawbar hitch that it will make the tractor highly unstable.

Go find a truck to borrow.



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