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what all uses a Continental 427?

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Don-Wi

09-26-2006 22:26:22
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I was driving past a neighbor's place today, saw he had his engine out in the driveway for sale. It's a power unit, I think from a back-up generator. I'm wondering what they may have all been used in, or what they could be stuffed into?

He just needs space in his garage for his new toys (Ford mustangs & Taurus SHO's). It's been kinda neat watching him go from one thing to the next. It started with Oliver/Cletrac crawlers, then on to Cub Cadets (made one into a crawler based on Oliver's system, another into a 4wd) and now Ford cars.

He's only asking $250, so I may have to snatch that one up....

Donovan from Wisconsin

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noncompos

09-27-2006 11:45:54
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-26-2006 22:26:22  
Ahh, got your pic. B427 means "industrial" (B-6427 is "automotive" and PB427 would be "power unit", but I don't know how Cont defined those).
My pic a little fuzzy, but looks like "spec" 745, which I would guess-repeat,guess-means carb, dist, cooling? maybe cam, timing?; maybe someone knows.
The 50 Motor book shows (for b-6427):
Brockway: 48-49 148W,151W,153W; 44-49 152W, 154W (their eng # 42BX.
Corbitt: 48-49 H22TG; 46-49 22TG,25BG; 47 22TGC, TGD; 46-48 35RG.
Diamond T: 47-49 703; 46-49 809.
Federal: 44-47 45M & M2; 55M & M2.
Ward La France: some 46-47 D1,D1C.
NOTES: Book only goes to 49. "Some" means other eng also shown for those models. Believe book only covers "road" trucks, not ind/const models, per larger listings in clutch catalog. T-6427, maybe, repeat:maybe-an OHV variant used in:
Federal: 48-49 45M & M2 & MA, 55MA & MZ, 645M & MA.
REO: 48-49 D23 series, incl L,R,RL,RBL,RT,T; D236.
Ward LaF: 48-49 some D1,D1C,D1T2.
Bearing catalog shows same rod, main bearings for B & T-6427, with other Cont's: 41B, 42B,B371, B405, B427,B6371, B6405, some of which are 4 1/8 x4 5/8, so some B and T variant parts apparently interchangeable. Clutch catalog contains many more, esp Brockway; will send email direct, BUT NONE OF THESE YEARS EXCLUSIVE: many other models with different engines, so no idea of total units using this engine. With Sympathy, Bud

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Bob M

09-27-2006 04:55:05
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-26-2006 22:26:22  
The Continental 427 flathead (model B6427-42xx) was installed in countless Brockway trucks throughout the 1950's.

Here in western NY seems virtually every town highway dept owned at least a couple Brockway single axle dumps set up for snowplowing with Continental 427's under the hoods. Smooth running (and tough!) old engines...



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J Schwiebert

09-27-2006 03:37:12
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-26-2006 22:26:22  
Don: Probably the most common application is the 40 year old Fox self propelled chopper. Parts will be a little hard to find and if available they will be expensive. J.



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RickB

09-27-2006 03:32:15
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-26-2006 22:26:22  
1964 vintage Fox self-propelled field chopper. 427 cu. in. Continental 6 cyl flathead.



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noncompos

09-26-2006 22:48:28
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-26-2006 22:26:22  
See my posts under your earlier post on this board (9-26, 8:49:47). If you can get a model ID I'll list what I show, but I'll only have a partial list as noted earlier.



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Don-Wi

09-27-2006 06:19:45
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to noncompos, 09-26-2006 22:48:28  
The next 3 numbers on the tag are 745. Does that help?

I looked for my earlier post and the thing is gone... Kim must not have liked the way it was worded.... O well.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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noncompos

09-27-2006 07:28:34
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-27-2006 06:19:45  
It"s morning out here--Don: your 9-26 8:49:47 post (and my replies) show on my page two of this board on my machine (Dell 2400/Firefox/Google)...but I"m missing (?) part of your 9-27 6:19:45 reply here: I only get "The next three numbers are 745..." The next three after what??
If it doesn"t show B-6427, or B427, or PB427, we could all be talking about diferent engines.
If you find my earlier posts there"s another problem: my Motor and parts catalogs don"t have any production figures, so you"ll have to guess about how many were /are around from your other replies.

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Don-Wi

09-27-2006 09:08:28
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to noncompos, 09-27-2006 07:28:34  

The tag reads B427 745 11963

Guess I didn't look back far enough for my other post.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Ray A in N.J.

09-27-2006 18:01:40
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-27-2006 09:08:28  
Don,-Have had that same motor here on the farm hooked up to a 6x6' irrigation pump since 1950. It's called a "continental Red Seal" Ray



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J Schwiebert

09-27-2006 16:21:35
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to Don-Wi, 09-27-2006 09:08:28  
Don: I have a friend who has been a Continetal dealer since the end of World War 2. He can decode it. They are spec numbers on how the engine was set up. Since you are an Oliver guy I will explain it this way. When I started they had some Super 188 power units in stock at the branch. They had a little tag on them with word someline this. Engine deviated from standard model and then there would be a number.

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Don-Wi

09-27-2006 22:28:43
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 Re: what all uses a Continental 427? in reply to J Schwiebert, 09-27-2006 16:21:35  
I'm thinking maybe I'll have to go and talk to him, maybe see if I can scoop it up. Don't klnow what for, for $250 I don't think I can go wrong...

Donovan from Wisconsin



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