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TDK

12-18-2004 08:42:27




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Anyone heat their shop with an oil stove ? I am having trouble with the control valve (carburator) on mine. It's a Seigler stove and cannot find any info by doing a Google search on stove or carb. Would like to have a owners manual or any info on adjusting carb. Thanks in advance !




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joe king

02-27-2006 06:50:53




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove carb in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
lookin for a carb for siegler stove most others will work leave a phone number if you can



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RCW

01-06-2005 12:59:47




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
You have what is known as a "constant level flow control carburetor." Do a search on that text string, and you will find the instructions. They are common on all the oil stoves, including the new catalyst models being sold today. So, if all else fails, a heating shop will have a kit for yours.

Just as a side, check the tube from the carburetor to the oil pot, and make sure it is brushed clean on the inside. Then check your arming lever on the carb to make sure it is on. Then it is a matter of setting the oil level to the line on the body of the carb (the body looks a bit like an oval when viewed from the top, and there will be a line cast into either the inside (after you pull the top) or the outside. Adjust your float to keep the oil at that level, no higher and no lower.

The needle gets worn, and may need replacement. If they dribble, the oil level will run too high and you will have a problem getting a clean burn. If you have a bit of valve grinding or diamond lapping paste, you can lap the seat and valve and get another ten or twenty years out of the old one.

Hope this helps.

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Rod F.

12-18-2004 13:17:14




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
My uncle has a stove like that in his kitchen. Harmony was the name, I think. I wish it was in Hell. The fire pot needs to be cleaned regularly, and generally the first start of the year requires the metering valve to be manually activated. ( At least I think it's the metering valve.) Set the stove to a medium to high setting, and then look on top of the carburetor, and there should be a pin or lever or something similar. Give this a few tap in (up and down) and that should jar everything loose inside and get the oil running. Personally, I think it's nothing more than a high cost kitchen ornament, but to each his own. HTH.

Rod

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fixerupper

12-18-2004 11:57:07




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
I was around one for about 50 years until we went to gas. The biggest problem with oil stoves is they get carboned up. The bottom of the fire pot will fill with a very hard carbon that will eventually plug the oil hole. Get in there with a screwdriver and hack away at it until you get it all. Your arm will be black by the time you are done but I'm sure you have some good hand cleaner around to take care of that. Then check the line coming out of the bottom of the fuel control valve. It can plug with carbon too. Those two things need to be done every year with the sooty burning fuel we have today. When the fuel line is off, turn on the fuel and put the control on high heat and see if fuel drips out. On full delivery it should drip once every five seconds or so. If not, then clean out the control valve. The orifice is in the bottom and can plug up fairly easily. If I remember right you can remove four screws and the top mechanism comes off. It's fairly simple after that. The float mechanism usually doesn't give much problem. When the heater is running, it will have to be run fairly hot or it will fill up with soot, unless you can find cleaner burning fuel than I can. Good luck and merry christmas.

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Bob

12-18-2004 11:16:42




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
The "carburetor" is more properly called a constant-level device. (A carburetor mixes fuel and air.)

The float and needle valve maintain the oil level at a set height so there is a constant flow of oil through the regulating valve to the burner "pot". The second float is an emergency "trip" that shuts off the oil if the other float and needle valve are unable to regulate it to a safe level.

There are adjusting screws that set the limits for high fire and low fire to a certain specified number of drops per minute, so that the stove will stay lit when the control is set on "low", and not overfuel when the control is set on "high". The owner's manual or a nameplate on the furnace may give these "spec's".

Often, the pipe on the furnace into the "pot" will get clogged with crudded-up oil, and stop oil flow into the "pot". Usually, a plug may be removed from a "tee", and a wire run in to clean out the pipe.

Also, usually there is a removable screen behind a plug, usually low down on the unit that may need cleaning.

Post back if you have specific question beynd what I've posted.

(BE CAREFULL, and don't try to relite a hot "pot" that's gone out, or use anything other than the recommended stove oil, or you may get your face burned off!)

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Jay (ND)

12-18-2004 16:17:48




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to Bob, 12-18-2004 11:16:42  
Bob has it exactly right. The main points of it as I see it are to clean it out with a wire (that is the #1 problem with these stoves).

Yes, clean the screen.

What wasn't mentioned: Use only #1 fuel. Not a mixture. Not a #2 that flows well. ONLY #1 fuel. These stoves can start to misbehave with very little #2 just because of the way very nature of the way they burn.



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Jay (ND)

12-18-2004 09:36:05




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
What's it doing?



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paul

12-18-2004 09:21:53




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 Re: OT - Oil Stove in reply to TDK, 12-18-2004 08:42:27  
I don't know anything about it, but Google had a lot more hits when it's spelled:

Siegler oil stove

More 'for sale' than informative, but I only looked at the first 10 out of 800+ hits....

--->Paul



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