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Ford 3000 starter problem

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Sam Hopkins

04-12-2003 07:19:35
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Hi Everyone,

I am having a starter problem with my ford 3000 tractor. Recently when I turn the key to engage the starter the dash lights come on but
the starter fails to turn. No noise whatsoever is made. It's the same effect you get when trying to start the tractor while it is in gear
(has one of those transmission protector switches). The first time it happened it started fine, I rode it about 1,000 feet, turned it off
and then tried to restart it and nothing. I had a friend rock the tractor forward an inch and it restarted fine. I used the tractor and parked it. The next day the same thing. This time I was alone though and could not rock the tractor so I kicked the starter and then it started but again, I drove 1,000 feet, turned it off and it wouldn't restart. This time though I was on a hill and could let the tractor drift a little thinking the rocking from before helped but it didn't.

I don't know much about how starter's work. From reading past posts I guess when power is applied it engages the flywheel, turns the engine
and then disengages the fly wheel?

Any help would be appreciated. Has anyone taken a starter off a 3000 before? It looks like there is 3 bolts. Two on the outside and one hidden on the inside. I'm hoping it's only the 2 outside bolts because the third one looks pretty impossible. Is it ok to remove the starter
to check it out? Do I have to pay attention to any gears and how they line up?

Thanks,

Sam

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Sam Hopkins

04-14-2003 07:40:13
169.144.118.139



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 Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Sam Hopkins, 04-12-2003 07:19:35  
THanks everyone for your responses. It looks like it is the neutral saftey switch. If I have the key in the "start" position and wiggle the gears the switch will make contact and the starter will engage.

The neutral saftey switch seems a little overkill since you must have the clutch down anyway to start the engine...



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RWK in WI

04-14-2003 18:49:34
169.207.73.171



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 Re: Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Sam Hopkins, 04-14-2003 07:40:13  
BE CAREFUL !
Unless I am mistaken to 3000's will start without touching the clutch. At least mine will.



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RWK in WI

04-12-2003 17:17:04
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 Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Sam Hopkins, 04-12-2003 07:19:35  
If you have the 8 speed forward / 2 reverse transmission the High / Low lever has to be in just the right place for the starter to work. First try wiggleing the lever forward and back a little, if necessary you can try bypassing this switch
DANGEROUS PRACTICE SO BE CAREFUL by connecting the two wires below the dash.

Another thing that has caused me problems is dirty battery connections. Clean and tight.

Hope this helps

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ErnieD

04-12-2003 15:04:55
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 Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Sam Hopkins, 04-12-2003 07:19:35  
rap the starter gently with small hammer, if that starts, rebuild starter.

check the push on wire connectors to key switch and every where, found a broken one once that kept the solenoid from engaging.

lastly check the transmission interlock switch.



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Willy

04-12-2003 13:55:29
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 Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Sam Hopkins, 04-12-2003 07:19:35  

Before you pull the starter clean the battery terminals and check the wiring connections at the starter. Had the same problem with a loose wire on the starter. Good luck.



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Gary-Miss

04-13-2003 11:48:54
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 Re: Re: Ford 3000 starter problem in reply to Willy, 04-12-2003 13:55:29  
You can check your neutral start safety switch by unplugging the two wires that go into your transmission top. You will note that one is male, the other is female. Make certain your tractor is out of gear at this point. Take the male and female ends COMING FROM UNDER THE DASH and plug them into each other. If they are molded together, split the molded rubber. This elimantes the neutral safety switch. If it cranks now, your problem is in this switch. If this doesn't fix it, E-mail me and I will take you through the steps. It also makes a difference in the starters if it is gas or diesel. As for the starter bolts, the third one is no problem if you have a 3/8 drive 9/16 socket and extensions that will bring you just barely past the end of the starter. If you don't have these tolls, you need em anyway.

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