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Ive been giving thought to advantages/disadvantages of an electric powered vehicle. I can appreciate things that will not be necessary. Help complete a list.
Alternators
Mufflers, cat converters and exhaust pipes
Filters, oil and air
Spark plugs
Radiators water pumps and hoses
Coolant
Fuel tanks, pumps and filters
Evaporative emission systems
And.
 
Oil changes
Fan belts
sending units (various)
Transmissions (as we know them)
Front to back drive shafts
Plug in engine heaters
Coils/distributors/plug wires
Burnt valves, worn pistons/rings/cylinders
slipping clutches
starter motors
Starting fluid
Fuel injection devices MAF cleaning
Some Idiot lights/gauges
Vacuum boosters
Tachometers
Oil puddles on concrete

Jim
 
I have yet to comprehend why EVs aren't built like cordless tools meaning that you pull into a "filling" station and the attendant drops your depleted battery pack and you drive off with a charged one.
 
I see mostly advantages shown. There are disadvantages too. Although a few listed. Like being 300 miles to the closest electric fuel station and you run out of battery life. Many folks wait until the gauge is on E before re fueling. Wingnut
 
i thought it was something like 2-3 hrs. once battery's are loaded. also these battery's might be a big problem once they dont take charge. just like the electric forklifts. people are scrapping the forklifts because the battery's cost in the thousands of dollars to replace. wait there will be big problems coming now! battery's to deal with , the making of battery's , battery disposal and so on. then the charging stations... is that going to be line up like on a gas shortage.??? what happens when the power goes out in a storm,? least with an engine you are still able to commute. are people going to have to make changes for home charging ? there would have to be some sort of residule power left for emergency travel. like a quad has a reserve tank. i want to see these vehicles in alaska, LOL. may as well just keep the dog sled!
 
Fellows, some are not 'up' on the details/workings of electric cars. The Tesla (& most likely many others, since they are followers of Tesla technology) do use coolant, radiators, water pumps, oil, oil pump, several each sending units for various locations of temp & pressure, drive shafts, not to mention miles of wire and hundreds of transistors & other solid state devices.

So list needs some deletions:
Oil changes
Fan belts
sending units (various)
Transmissions (as we know them)
Front to back drive shafts
Plug in engine heaters
Coils/distributors/plug wires
Burnt valves, worn pistons/rings/cylinders
slipping clutches
starter motors
Starting fluid
Fuel injection devices MAF cleaning
Some Idiot lights/gauges
Vacuum boosters
Tachometers
Oil puddles on concrete
 
good commuter car, not good for a long trip unless you're willing to stop and recharge every 3 hours or so.a range of up to 300+ miles is advertised but at what average speed.If the car is owned rather than leased and the batt. dies get ready to spend big money.
 
(quoted from post at 13:31:08 03/15/21) good commuter car, not good for a long trip unless you're willing to stop and recharge every 3 hours or so.a range of up to 300+ miles is advertised but at what average speed.If the car is owned rather than leased and the batt. dies get ready to spend big money.
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1/3 the cost of the vehicle.
 
We need to make every car electric power.
For them long trips you could have a onboard pedal power generator.
Be the best thing for the overall health of our country.
Fit right in with the health conscious crowd that raises their own food in their backyard.
Just think; you could drink more beer and not have to worry about getting the pot belly.
 
Don't forget your going to have to rewire your house maybe a 300amp, maybe 400 amp entrance box to handle average person with 2 vehicles. California can't handle summer heat-how they gonna handle millions of cars on windmills & solar panels.
 
(quoted from post at 09:31:30 03/15/21) I have yet to comprehend why EVs aren't built like cordless tools meaning that you pull into a "filling" station and the attendant drops your depleted battery pack and you drive off with a charged one.
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No opportunity for rampant abuse there... I mean, who would think to show up at a filling station with their clapped out, barely holding a charge battery pack, and drive off with a brand new one for the cost of a "fillup?" Or the opposite happening? Crooked filling station owner buying clapped out old battery packs and swapping them in for good ones when a customer comes in for a "fillup."

That would also assume standardization of battery packs, which is not going to happen.
 
My thoughts exactly. The battery represents a significant portion of the purchase price of an EV vehicle and most folks would be highly against trading in their
brand-new battery for one of unknown history and questionable remaining service life. Also, who would actually own the replacement battery and be liable if you
have problems with the replacement, you or the "filling station" you received it from? It is completely different when you exchange your empty propane bottle for
a full one since there you're only talking about a cheap chunk of steel with a valve on it, not a highly complex, super-expensive device like an EV battery pack.
 
So far, the gold standard in personal transportation is the automobile with an internal combustion engine.

You want an electric car? Go ahead and buy one. You can report back on how it works out for you.

I have no intention of buying one so don't try yo force it on me. I'm perfectly happy with what I drive now. I will continue to drive it until it rusts out.
 
(quoted from post at 15:10:25 03/15/21) So far, the gold standard in personal transportation is the automobile with an internal combustion engine.

You want an electric car? Go ahead and buy one. You can report back on how it works out for you.

I have no intention of buying one so don't try yo force it on me. I'm perfectly happy with what I drive now. I will continue to drive it until it rusts out.
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ot likely here either. I have only replaced or traded at 15-20 year intervals forever and if I stick with that, I won't be trading until I'm 91-96 years old & highly unlikely to be alive or much less driving! Others will have to perform that experiment!
 
Here in Pennsylvania the fuel tax that is collected by the gas stations goes to the state for road construction and repairs , the state is going to see less tax when all the vehicle are electric. Think about that
 
(quoted from post at 16:31:13 03/15/21) Here in Pennsylvania the fuel tax that is collected by the gas stations goes to the state for road construction and repairs , the state is going to see less tax when all the vehicle are electric. Think about that
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guarantee you that the state will find some tax way to get your money! You can bet your life on it!
 
Bloomberg today:
One is a shift from a gasoline tax to a vehicle-miles-traveled fee to help fund highway projects.

Read More: By-the-Mile Vehicle Tax to Help Fund Infrastructure Gains Steam
 
On the other hand, 'rebuilt' battery packs are now available for certain models. As you said, no standardization. But, in the long run the marketplace will select the best ones.

Lots of sources for them.
 
Legislators in 12 states pursue changes to electric, hybrid vehicle fees
Indiana BMV charges a tax on electric vehicles.
No EV in my future. Calculate the cost per mile in electricity just to drive them. Limited range. Time to recharge. They are not carbon free cars, they only change the location of the carbon. Electric power plants are not carbon free. It would be interesting if someone calculated the amount of carbon per mile it takes to power a total electric car. NO THANKS.
geo
12 states
 
I've actually be doing a little research as our old minivan is in need of replacement. Most,if not all the current crop of electrics will charge overnight on a 20a circuit. Going up to a 40a 240v will get you a much quicker charge. The issue I see coming is older neighborhoods with one 15 or 20 KVA transformer serving multiple houses. works fine as most have gas heat and kitchens in my area and only need electric for lights. But add a 20 or 30 amp load to every house that is full time every night and it becomes an issue. Not so much a home wiring issue as an infrastructure problem.
 
My favorite daughter test drove a Tesla last week she has been saving up to buy a new car. I told her at least get a Hybrid but she is thinking all electric. Oh well she makes good money its her call not old dads

John T
 
JohnT,
Tell your daughter rhere is a Tesla charging station at the Myers store East side of Terre Haute.
George
 
I read an article last week, forget where, that brought up the point that the weak spot for EV's are the ability to charge them in a short enough time to make them usable for a common 300-400 mile trip. The problem is the more a battery gets charged the slower it takes to complete the charging activity. Apparently high capacity charging stations are $100K per slot to construct AND there is not a standard plug that is being used by the manufacturers. There are several obstacles to be overcome before they can really go mainstream outside of major metropolitan areas. I am NOT a proponent of them and I make no claim to the accuracy of this information.
 
Humm, mufflers shops be closing the doors also. We were not ready for nnalert , nor electric vehicles.
 

If I were young I would jump right in on them there will be money to be made... I read on a few garage owners forums where some that are servicing the battery packs are doing very well at it...

There is a market for Hybrid and Electric Vehicle's and someone is going to make money fixing them... Its like a VW I would not be caught dead in one but folks that love them are dedicated to them..
I don't see it but its not my money...
 

Anything run by electronics and computer chips can go wrong anytime.

I was at a mall in Honolulu last March and walked by the Tesla store. They really put the hard sell on me (even though I wasn't interested) and was trying to get me to test drive one. What I saw of it and sitting in it, I thought it was allright for what I want to do. Just the price was too high and I wasn't looking for a car. Been driving a Prius for 13 years so going full electric would be ok for me. When I first got it, thought it was great that we could drive to a KU basketball game for 12 bux.

The tesla would be ok for the daily driver as long as it will hold some tools. For the record, I think Fred Flintstone drove the original non-combustion engine car.
 
JohnT,
How much carbon is produced to make electricity? How much electric is needed to recharge. Then calculate the carbon per mile does a tesla indirectly produce,. Likewise how much carbon per mile does a Prius generate?
I'm going out on a limb and say a total electric car isn't all what the greenies think unless we have a total carbon free electricity energy. I will also say the cost per mile using electricity isn't much of a savings, if any.
George
 
My father has had a Chevy Bolt for about 3 years now. Real world, year round use (in Vermont) - cost per mile about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of an internal combustion vehicle. He loves it!
 
The real problem of electric cars is their end of life. We are going to leave our great-grandchildren with piles of spent EV batteries that are toxic waste. No problem, the greenies will just dump them in a third world place they don't care about, like Africa, so child labor can strip anything of value, then burn the rest in a ravine. Like we do with used electronic equipment now.
 
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