can you put a toque amplifier in an farmall m

repairer · Sep 3, 2019

i have a 1951 farmall m. using it for pulling in stock class. when I get to the 9000 pound class I run out of power around the 250 mark. I found an super m ta that burnt. thinking about taking ta out and put in m. but cannot seen to find out if it will work any ideas?

Janicholson · Sep 3, 2019

No or not fundamentally easily. With a TA, the tractor might fall into a different category.? the easy way is to put the rear 1/2 of the tractor onto your
front 1/2. The middle frame casting is longer than an M, and results in many differences in length of the hood and other issues. The M final drives are not the
same as a SMTA, nor the housing. The TA could be restructured to "fit" into the space inside the M torque tube, but it would not be able to be shifted. It
would take engineering and tooling to make it a permanent reduction, not switchable. Low first gear gearset for an M would be far far easier to do. Putting
your engine into a SMTA, or 400/450 is also easy. Jim

repairer · Sep 3, 2019

(reply to post at 09:22:43 09/03/19)

thanks that is what I needed to know.

D Slater · Sep 3, 2019

Installed a W-6 first gear in a M I have. One tooth smaller on the bottom shaft and one bigger on the top shaft. Don't know if
that's enough reduction to make 300 foot or not. Not all w-6 have that gear, they went bu serial number breaks. Some 6 series used
the low low speed gears also.

rustred · Sep 3, 2019

Won?t work unless u get or use the whole housing, as these
TA tractors have a longer housing.
Gives them about a 6? longer wheelbase

greg oliver · Sep 3, 2019

Repairer, I was at a tractor pull a week ago and the M had a
M&W 9 speed I was told. He won but had a lot of money in
that tractor. He did get a ribbon for first place! Lol

EFV · Sep 3, 2019

Is that Rich Prokop's Farmall ?

Janicholson · Sep 3, 2019

A 9 speed does nothing for the issue of slowing down a M. There are several brands, but they all create 4 more speeds between 4th and 5th, not below first. Oh well. Jim

greg oliver · Sep 3, 2019

Yes. First time I?ve seen him pull. Think he had about 100 feet more than the guy in second. Lol

greg oliver · Sep 3, 2019

Janicholson, As I watched the tractor pull the other day anyone who shifted down spun out. Didn?t matter if green or red. My dad beat me with an M against my Oliver 1555. On the M I did pull the governor cover off and run a wire through the spring and twisted it to gain some RPM. I spun out he ran out of power. Both tractors had 15 5 38?s the M had road wore Firestone?s on 12 inch rims while my Oliver had Armstrong?s on 14 inch rims. On YouTube under WALTON Fair tractor pull my Oliver can easily see it spin out as soon as I pulled the hydra-Power lever.

repairer · Sep 3, 2019

(quoted from post at 15:50:38 09/03/19) Janicholson, As I watched the tractor pull the other day anyone who shifted down spun out. Didn?t matter if green or red. My dad beat me with an M against my Oliver 1555. On the M I did pull the governor cover off and run a wire through the spring and twisted it to gain some RPM. I spun out he ran out of power. Both tractors had 15 5 38?s the M had road wore Firestone?s on 12 inch rims while my Oliver had Armstrong?s on 14 inch rims. On YouTube under WALTON Fair tractor pull my Oliver can easily see it spin out as soon as I pulled the hydra-Power lever.

We run 18-4/38 Goodyear. Maybe we should drop down to 15-5/38.

the tractor vet · Sep 3, 2019

What you do need is more pony power not gears and easier to come by then finding a chopper gear set for and M . A stock 450 head some bigger valves some high alt. pistons a little cam work a tweak on the dist. and some fatting up of the carb and some gov. work . May not take first place every time but it sure will make it tough on the other guys . . 75-80 ponys will wake it up.

repairer · Sep 3, 2019

(quoted from post at 17:58:39 09/03/19) What you do need is more pony power not gears and easier to come by then finding a chopper gear set for and M . A stock 450 head some bigger valves some high alt. pistons a little cam work a tweak on the dist. and some fatting up of the carb and some gov. work . May not take first place every time but it sure will make it tough on the other guys . . 75-80 ponys will wake it up.

Yes but how to get past the dyno as only allowed 52 hp. Any ideas

buickanddeere · Sep 3, 2019

Pull the sleeves and install over size high compression pistons . Regrind the cam & cam followers . Tune the mixture and timing to suit .

the tractor vet · Sep 4, 2019

No go with a14.9x38 on 15-16 inch rims . The 18.4's are what is killing your 52 Hp. class . 52 hp. that is stupid since most good running M's are above that with a stock over bore and step head factory pistons . Good grief my own S/MTA only has the M & W flat head 4 and 1/8th pistons with a stock head and knocks out 60 , my one friend that we rebuilt that has a 450 gas head , high alt. pistons a 450 cam and a 450 stock gas manifold a little carb work a balance job and a M&W gov. will knock the socks off a 806 gasser plum eat a 706 C291 alive and split the gear box in half on a one row I H silage chopper while running second gear in really good corn . They would have a stroke if they placed that on on there Dyno.

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