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O. T. ---Water saver toilet?

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Jiles

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I have three older style commodes and a somewhat high water usage especially when all eight grandchildren are visiting.
Is there a way to modify these older toilets to use less water for liquid waste?
 
Are they old enough to read?

If so, this sign mite help.

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I have done some of these suggestions but have problems with solids flushing.
Modern water saving toilets are designed to flush liquids by just moving handle and releasing.
With solids you hold handle down.
My question is if a kit is available--that works--for the older models.
 
As a couple suggested. Take a half gallon milk jug and cut a hole about the
size of a quarter near the bottom. Place a couple of large pebbles in the
bottom to hold it in place. Depending on your tank you might be able to fit a
one gallon jug into a position. Why spend money when you can go cheep???
 

If you want the toilet to FLUSH with just one push of the handle, do nothing. If you want to flush the toilet 2 or 3 times to accomplish the task, then go with some of the other suggestions.
 
Remove the flush handle on all toilets. Then when you go to bed at night, use a pair of vise grips to grab the stem of the
flushing mechanism to clear the toilet(s). Even better, do it every 2nd or 3rd day.
 
I love my grand kids more than anything in the world. I really. But.......If I had 8 of them here so often that I had to worry about water consumption I would buy new toilets, surrounded by a new house, in another city, in the middle of another state. I am too old for 8 grand kids that often.
 
Do not put bricks it the tank,bricks absorb water and fall apart in the tank. Then all of those small pieces will plug the holes in the bowl. 1/2 gal milk jugs filled with water work in some tanks,just depends on the float and flapper lay out. I have been happy with the Toto toilets I put in 17 years ago. I will add to buy a new one from a plumbing supply store,a lot of box stores sell B grade and you want an A grade.
 
You could adjust the float down to shut off sooner, that would lower the amount of water used with each
flush. I?m thinking that your problem isn?t the water, but overflowing your septic ? 8 grandkids +
parents, + grandparents, that?s simply way more than most septics can handle. If you could, have the
tank pumped a day before they show up.
 
Just remembered, fluidmaster sells a dual flush kit. One stage for pee, full throttle for poo.
 
Lots of opinions as to what you should do. We replaced our toilets at home and at the cottage with low volume flush , so instead of three or four gallons to flush its down to less than four liters. Also put dual flush at the cottage where we are on a septic system , a total miser on water , glad we changed them.
 
Not that anyone besides me cares, but I went the other way. I took out my new "no Flow" commode
that came with my house and got a real one from a local shotgun house being torn down. All new innards and some cleaning and one flush
and done! TDF
 
We bought highly rated pressure flush low flow toilets. No
more dripping tank in the summer and the flushing power, well
there hasn?t been a need for second flush and we don?t own a
plunger. You want to keep your limbs clear when flushing as I
suspect it could rip them off and flush them too.
 
o for g_ds sake they might end up in jail and be s-x_al predators for pe_ing out side !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just like i had to skip letters
 
The old style toilet bowls were designed to flush well with a full tank of water.

They also tend to clog with calcium, and as that get older don't flush as well as when new.

A couple of people mentioned Toto toilets. That's what I went to, made a world of difference!

I bought them online, did some research because they make a lot of different models, some are the ultra expensive designer models, but the basic toilets are not much more than the name brands at the building supply stores.

But something you can try, there are adjustable flapper valves. You turn a dial on top of the valve that adjusts the air dump hole size. You can turn it to a low flush, where a quick push will do a minimal #1 flush, and holding the lever longer will do a #2 flush.

That way you can leave the tank level high which gives good pressure to get the siphon started so it does flush and not just rise and swirl.

Cleaning the calcium deposits helps too, look on Youtube for cleaning with muriatic acid.
 
We had similar issues when our 9 grandkids visited. So I replaced one of the 60's era toilets in our house with a Kohler "Cimmeron" low flow.

The Kohler works great. Trip the handle for a 1 gallon flush. Or trip then hold the handle down until the flush is complete for "big jobs". (Have found the 1 gallon flush is sufficient for all but the most epic bowel movements....)

The Kohler worked so well I quickly replaced the other toilet in our house. And I've installed a total 5 more in my kids' houses.
 
The Toto's work well, as do the Sterlings, made by a division of Kohler...I replaced both my old toilets with elongated ADA (taller) Sterlings, no problems...
 
"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]I would be taking the kids to the doctor.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Or sending them outside to the woods.
 
I am glad to hear you were joking I was beginning to wonder how you ended up with your handle LOL.
 

You haave been given some good ideas but be a bit careful. The plumbers I know love the government toilets because they now make a killing rodding sewer lines. The low water flow fails to clear the lines of the "solids" and they eventually clog quicker than when the toilets used more water.
 
Lol well anything not nailed down sounds like it will get sucked into the intake. She's got a heck of a blast when you trip the flush mechanism.
 
Ask This Old House just did a very good story explaining how the newest water saving toilets work. I think it was the February 14, 2019 episode.
 
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