free gas

stonerock · Feb 10, 2019

anybody get free gas?have about six wells on my farms,get free gas on two farms. home farm free gas to the shop. second farm is plumbed back to house on home farm, out door wood burner for back-up, never gets used, fireplace is used for our entertainment only not really for heat about a cord a season anybody else get free gas?

rustyfarmall · Feb 10, 2019

Only when I eat too many beans.

1370rod · Feb 10, 2019

Wow I never knew there was such a thing. The only kind of gas we don't pay for comes from eating beans. Rod.

farmerjohn · Feb 10, 2019

My parents where I grew up have it since 1982, lots of farms in the area do here in western PA.

farmerjohn · Feb 10, 2019

Yes, one of the perks of leasing your farm to drill for gas and have a producing well. My parents have five wells on 160 acres, lots of them in our region.

rusty6 · Feb 10, 2019

That is quite amazing and I had no idea anybody could get it. Would sure be great here in this cold climate. I'm paying $80 a month for mine.

miner09 · Feb 10, 2019

Farms here in East Texas had it for years but was stopped few years ago. Years ago you could get the drip gas from the well and run it in your car. Wasn't top notch but would run. Especially if you were a kid and didn't have money. LOL

redforlife · Feb 10, 2019

I knew a lady that had a well on her place. The well was low producing and taken out of commission. It did however produce enough for her own house use. Unfortunately, the up keep and cost of running the well, just really didn't justify doing just for herself to get free gas for her house. Just the situation this one particular lady was in.

Adirondack case guy · Feb 10, 2019

Beans,Beans, the magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you Toot
The more you Toot, the better you feel
Then you are ready for another meal
My brain fart for the day
Loren

Mike(NEOhio) · Feb 10, 2019

I haven't seen any leases lately but around here the landowner got a 12.5% of the wellhead price as royalty plus free gas. At first it was unlimited but some were boiling sap for everyone around along with other abuses. They started capping it at 100,000 cu. ft. per year.

Moonlite37 · Feb 10, 2019

Cousin in prison got it for a long time with a siphon hose

Grandpa's Fords · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 10:42:49 02/10/19) I haven't seen any leases lately but around here the landowner got a 12.5% of the wellhead price as royalty plus free gas. At first it was unlimited but some were boiling sap for everyone around along with other abuses. They started capping it at 100,000 cu. ft. per year.

Our leases are 16% at the well head and free gas. No provisions were made for taps and piping would be about 2000' for our use. Also they claim the high pressures would make them to volatile for residential use.

HAZENMANOR · Feb 10, 2019

Sold me on the place we bought. I worked in the Chautauqua county NY gas fields when area wells were drilled in the 70,s. A lot of leases came with a homeowner hook-up to the well, most came with free 200,000 cubic feet of gas per year for the life of the well. Ours is still producing although the well is on neighbors property, he gets the royalties we get the free gas.

UncleTom · Feb 10, 2019

How would the home owner hook up to a well to run a furnace? Does it maintain pressure in the gas line? Is the well capped with a fitting for a hookup? I am just curious.

Stephen Newell · Feb 10, 2019

Doesn't a gas well put out a certain amount of poison gas?

Elton Fancher · Feb 10, 2019

My farm has a well on it that belongs to LG&E. We are part of what they term as a storage field. If I wanted to drill any sort of well I am not allowed to go below the shale deposits where their gas is held. My father-in-law had free gas since the 60's but when we bought out the farm and split it the gas stayed to his home and I cannot get it free, can hook on but would have to pay. Many of my neighbors have had free gas since the 60's. One buddy runs 4 buildings.

David G · Feb 10, 2019

That kind of surprises me, would think the gas is a little wet and sour, how do the appliances hold up?

Cmore · Feb 10, 2019

I?ve heard that years ago in Northern Illinois not only did some farmers get free gas for their homes but they also modified their LP tractors somehow to run on Natural Gas.
I don?t know if this is true and do not have any first hand knowledge of this.
If someone knows, please jump in.

Grandpa's Fords · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 12:13:18 02/10/19) That kind of surprises me, would think the gas is a little wet and sour, how do the appliances hold up?

In the northeast it definitely wet with the use of fracking. Chemically induced brine water is used at high pressure to fracture the shale releasing the gas. The water is separated (mostly)anyway and sent to brine or production tanks and hauled off periodically depending how active the well is. At that point it is mostly pure NG. Downstream there are more measures taken to remove water and impurities. If you could tap the piping at the wellsite then it would work fine but I only can assume that orifices and fittings, etc. wouldn't last as long as they would with gas that's travel downstream.
Bigger issue here is the pressure 1500 to 2800 PSI would have to be reduced to 35-40 PSI before it left the well site to make usable. This becomes very cost prohibitive.
In other types of wells the gas is produced by pumping oil and is a byproduct. Where as the pressure is much less and safer to separate where they can be tapped easily for domestic use. It will build pressure when pumping and stay pressurized until released by the use. There would be very little water in these types.
My experience is mostly in the Northeast on high pressure systems and don't totally understand the different kinds of wells.
In today's world you can't tap in anywhere legally without acredited contractors. Basically your not even allowed to hook up your propane tank to your house with inspections. Even the piping off of the wellsite would fall under scrutiny. Not sure how you would go about getting it done.
The taps and wellsite piping would have to be done by the Gas Co. Then your piping would have meet their standards.

timcasbolt · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 17:15:04 02/10/19) I?ve heard that years ago in Northern Illinois not only did some farmers get free gas for their homes but they also modified their LP tractors somehow to run on Natural Gas.
I don?t know if this is true and do not have any first hand knowledge of this.
If someone knows, please jump in.

Switching an engine over from lp to cng is a 10 minute job. In Toronto, all the cabs run on cng.

Destroked 450 · Feb 10, 2019

A gas well on my farm could save me thousands in what I pay for propane, but most areas near me that have gas wells can't get good well water.
I like my well water.

LG&E gas well!
Elton Fancher where are you located?
I have a LG&E electric transmission line crossing my farm.
I know LG&E has a number of gas storage wells west of Fort Knox, not sure where else.

DR. EVIL · Feb 10, 2019

Dad hauled bulk fuel for FS/Growmark Ind. He hauled all over northern Ill. Millons of cubic feet of gas stored in the ground under the bedrock. Runs along Rt 20 east of Freeport to Rockford.

Can't say I saw any more LP tractors there, lots of diesels.

RGMartin · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 12:13:18 02/10/19) That kind of surprises me, would think the gas is a little wet and sour, how do the appliances hold up?

I don't have any water problems on mine. Appliance may have a slightly shorter life. Just changed out a furnace that went 15 years before heat exchanger failed. Stove is 13 and still going, though showing age. HW tank is 8, and needs the flame sensor cleaned every couple years.

Well is 25 years old, 2000 feet from house. It never gets over a few 100 pounds at the well head. Any pressure can be regulated down, just high pressure regs cost more money.

I have to buy LP for my grain dryer as that would exceed my use contract. I wish I could buy NG from the field lines, but that is against state law.

K Effective · Feb 10, 2019

One salesman that called on us at my previous job was from a rural area just south of Grand Rapids, MI. The gas company stored bulk natural gas underground in a cavern system, and the homeowners above got free gas, not sure if they just tapped the supply or were zero-billed from the system

Elmo · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 15:18:34 02/10/19) Farms here in East Texas had it for years but was stopped few years ago. Years ago you could get the drip gas from the well and run it in your car. Wasn't top notch but would run. Especially if you were a kid and didn't have money. LOL

My grandpa had a well and I got free drip for a 1949 Chevy car. It was low octane and would rattle if you got happy with the gas pedal.
Elmo

Bret4207 · Feb 10, 2019

(quoted from post at 12:37:37 02/10/19) Doesn't a gas well put out a certain amount of poison gas?

It's all poison if you breath enough of it in.

westga · Feb 10, 2019

The short answer is some do. Hydrogen sulfide (H2 S) is what came out of some natural gas wells in the Louisiana area. So i was told.

Ozlander · Feb 10, 2019

Years ago, before rural electricity came around, all the farms in western kansas and okla had free gas, gas lights and a Servel refrigerator.

notjustair · Feb 10, 2019

There are four of us in this section that get our own free gas from our wells. We have drip legs that you blow off the condensation once a year but that is about it. Every two years or so I have to take the generator down and use the pump jack to pump the water off and about every 25 years you have to have an acid shot done to it to open it back up from the minerals. That usually runs a few thousand dollars, but still cheap in the long shot. Not all of the wells make water - I think mine is the only one.

Each of these wells is an old oil well that fell below production standards so they are only used for gas. The controllers hate keeping them open so we had to start registering them with the state so that they weren?t required to plug it. Essentially it meant we had to take full ownership of the well and not just the rights.

sammydwm · Feb 11, 2019

The place my Mom grew up in outside of Toledo had free gas for the house. Still had it up till the 2000's. Ran the stove and furnace with it don't recall any particular problems.

Part Time Pete · Feb 11, 2019

Free gas would be great, but I'd worry a little about it not having odorant in it
Pete

Grandpa's Fords · Feb 11, 2019

Wells I've seen had odorant added as it left the well head.

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