I have three ash trees in my yard. One of them is a large tree that shades the east side of my home. I would miss it if it had to come down. I started using the Bayer granules this spring. In the town about 10 miles from me trees are getting hit pretty hard. My 5 acres is surrounded by crop land with no woods except for fence lines or drainage ditches. I am guessing the nearest ash tree to me is a few miles away. So far my trees look fine. I am wondering if the distance to other ash trees is helping me. Also how effective are the Bayer granules? Any experience with emerald ash borer. Thanks.
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Goose
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I can't answer about the Bayer granules, but we have two nice ash trees on the west side of our house. As I recall, the nearest case of the borer is still some 60 miles away from us.
My wife is already looking into planting a couple of non-ash trees to give them a good start if we lose the ash trees. She's the arborist in the family.
My wife is already looking into planting a couple of non-ash trees to give them a good start if we lose the ash trees. She's the arborist in the family.
I am still in the process of cutting down dead ash trees killed off by the ash borer and will still be at it a few years from now. How close you are to other ash trees really doesn?t matter from what I have experienced, they will find new trees to feast on no matter the distance. If you treat all your trees, they should have a good chance at survival. I have way to many for treatment to be economical and have see daily the devastation that has been caused, save them if you can.
IHRedRules
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I hate to say it, but those trees are in striking distance of the ash borer, just a matter of time before it gets there. My parents had some nice young ash trees and used the Bayer product for a number of years with success before selling the house.
I assume you mean this product: 12 Month Tree & Shrub Protect & Feed Ready to Use Granules. This product is 1.1% Imidicloprid, which is known to be effective against Emerald Ash Borer at appropriate concentrations. The difficult questions are: how and when did you apply it, and how much of it did the tree take up?
Please be aware that Imidicloprid is a neo-nicotinoid that could be harmful to bees and other pollinating insects, perhaps depending on when you apply it.
Here is a pretty good pamphlet about treating for EAB: Insecticide Options for Protecting Ash Trees from Emerald Ash Borer
Please be aware that Imidicloprid is a neo-nicotinoid that could be harmful to bees and other pollinating insects, perhaps depending on when you apply it.
Here is a pretty good pamphlet about treating for EAB: Insecticide Options for Protecting Ash Trees from Emerald Ash Borer
Bob M
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EAB has killed virtually every ash tree here (Rochester, NY). Literally hundreds of thousands of trees have succumbed.
I've had to remove 3 huge (80+ feet and 100+ years old) trees that died suddenly and were then threatening our house.
Experience of my neighbors has been granules are ineffective. Trunk injections DO work....but they are expensive, must be properly timed to be effective, and injections must be repeated annually.
The one (small) upside of the EAB infestation: Uncut ash firewood is available everywhere for the taking.
I've had to remove 3 huge (80+ feet and 100+ years old) trees that died suddenly and were then threatening our house.
Experience of my neighbors has been granules are ineffective. Trunk injections DO work....but they are expensive, must be properly timed to be effective, and injections must be repeated annually.
The one (small) upside of the EAB infestation: Uncut ash firewood is available everywhere for the taking.
There is no chance that your ash trees will survive.
Here in SE IN, ALL mature ash trees died within a couple of years of published news articles stating that the EAB was within 50 or 60 miles. ALL died, though there are still some small ash trees living. The jury is still out regarding whether these will survive to maturity but I would not bet on it.
Dead ash wood does not long survive, and my dead ash trees are now dropping limbs. It cannot be long until entire trees begin to fall.
I'm 68 so this will overwhelm me. May need to buy a large skid steer or small dozer to keep mowed areas clear.
Dean
Here in SE IN, ALL mature ash trees died within a couple of years of published news articles stating that the EAB was within 50 or 60 miles. ALL died, though there are still some small ash trees living. The jury is still out regarding whether these will survive to maturity but I would not bet on it.
Dead ash wood does not long survive, and my dead ash trees are now dropping limbs. It cannot be long until entire trees begin to fall.
I'm 68 so this will overwhelm me. May need to buy a large skid steer or small dozer to keep mowed areas clear.
Dean
I would say the specialists are a 100% dead on. I?m just a side road off 21 and there are numerous campgrounds in the area with people from outside the area sneaking in wood just to avoid paying 5 bucks to a local. The borer started hitting this area before it had swept this far across the province on it?s own and has been attributed to movement of fire wood. My entire road from Bayfield North is lined with dead ash now and the township are only taking out those that pose an imminent danger. Doubt I will ever see such nice large trees down these roads in my lifetime again.
BarnyardEngineering
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NY made it illegal to transport firewood in order to slow the spread of the bug. People scoffed at the law, flaunted the law, screamed "FREEDOM!" and continued to transport firewood anyway. Now all the trees are dead.
Hay hay hay
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Unfortunately the emerald ash borer, Asian carp, zebra mussel, python, bush honeysuckle and tree of heaven are just a few of the "nice?" species brought here by globalization. There is probably no way to totally stop the spread, but it would be nice if Americans made a little more effort to understand the harm to other citizens and if they would make a little personal effort to stop the spreading.
Hay hay hay
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Yep...that is a problem...40 years and our elected folks can't find an answer. Last I heard there were 10 million illegals...but mostly they work, show up every day, dependable, that is why they are here, for work. Unlike the 10 million citizens who are on SS disability. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries?7 percent or more?were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia....notice a trend here? So if their back hurts too bad to drive a tractor, is their brain and mouth also broke? There are lots of computer, clerical, telephone..etc etc etc jobs. Seems I recall that you had chosen to have many jobs and careers. But 10 million citizens can not find that niche?
I planted lots of non-ash trees 15 years ago. Oaks and Hackberries are just now getting to be 20 feet or so tall. I'll still miss the ash when it goes. Been adding 5-10 "extension trees" of various types each year, plus moving the oak and Hackberry volunteers into the shelterbelt.
EAB is now about 50 miles away from us (as of this spring, might be closer now).
EAB is now about 50 miles away from us (as of this spring, might be closer now).
caterpillar guy
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Look on your trees if you see what looks like a D shaped hole in the bark it's to late already been there. The D shaped hole is the exit hole where they left. If you pull the bark off a dead tree and see what looks like a mass of groove like lines back and forth next to the hard wood under the bark it is already dead just has not fell down yet.
Most of the Ash here up to about 12inches the roots rot away then it falls over. This happens in about 1-3 year so if they are dead get them dwon before they fall wrong( into house or buildings).
Most of the Ash here up to about 12inches the roots rot away then it falls over. This happens in about 1-3 year so if they are dead get them dwon before they fall wrong( into house or buildings).
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