Perdue chicken commercial

larry@stinescorner

Well-known Member
I just saw a commercial ,Perdue had chickens growing up in a large pasture with nice green grass,It
was a commercial for their line of organic chickens they market.
 
Conjures images of those old "yard birds" that you had to boil first to make them tender enough to eat.
 
I have to say,,the best and tastiest chicken I ever ate was some very old chickens I helped my neighbors grandma butcher.When I started cooking it,it got as tough as a football.I let it simmer for many hrs. When the chicken finally got tender enough to eat,it was fantastic.The broth and soup was great too.The chicken meat became tender enough to eat,but didnt turn to mush,It was really good.
 
What a joke with a large house behind and just a few chickens eating grass and its plain to see the grass has not been there for chickens to eat. Iam surprised they would run such a add but the public is so dumb they will believe the add
 
Actually goats have taken the place of hogs as being 'Mortgage Lifters' about the most profitable animal on a farm these days.Used to be an old saying "Cattlemen dressed like they were millionaires and had 10 cents in their pocket while hog farmers dressed like they had 10 cents and were millionaires'.
 
Dad raised Hogs AND Cattle. He looked poor and Was poor. But his old maid Land-Lady wintered in Florida every winter.
 
No,it was long and slow,,, it didnt have a lot of white meat breast like the public wants,,but did have really good taste,,believe me,it was good tasting
 

There are some people looking in to it around here. I don't see the attraction. Looks to me like you become a slave for Perdue, with no benefits. Easy back-breakin' plan, and they can drop you any time with no reason.
 
Remember, commercials are to sell a product, not to present reality......



The current craze is to get rid of plastic straws for soft drinks. Oh my the news is filled with company after company going to save the world by using paper straws instead of plastic ones! I think perhaps the last claim I heard it was close to saving enough plastic per year about equal to the weight of the world, not using plastic straws was going to be so good! Perhaps they were embellishing a tad or I didn't hear exactly right, but that was close to the claim....

Anyone old enough to remeber, we went to plastic straws to save trees and the plastic straws could be reused so they were going to save the world? The best most environmental thing to do was get rid of those aweful paper straws and go plastic!

Paul
 
Remember, commercials are to sell a product, not to present reality...?

I'd like to see actual pictures of where these Perdue chickens are being raised outside and not just staged for the commercial. Not saying I'd pay to see it,just saying I'd like to.
 
Organic crop production takes about 3 years to get your crops certified organic. Can be shorter if you have very good records proving you don't use chemicals on some acres; proving a negative is tough tho.

Raising organic critters is a little different, if you buy the organic grains a lot of your premium prices go to buying the specialty organic grains from others......

It's all kind of a pyramid scheme, rich folk can pitter around spending lots of money on food, and it's the fad to do organic food now. Maybe that trend will continue, maybe it will expand. Maybe it won't.

The big players in this, like Perdue or Whole Foods are looking to make a buck, and are working out ways to buy wholesale and sell premium retail. Thry will squeeze the market, and will attempt to be paying regular prices to the organic farmers, for getting a premium product from them.

It will all turn very large and very commercial real fast, and the premium prices will dwindle to not much.

This won't be aimed at a 20 acre farm growing 50 chickens and making a living,, it will be aimed at 20,000 bird barns built side by side churning out lots of birds just like regular farming.

But the commercial makes everyone feel good, and spend more piles of cash on these 'special' chickens and create so many winners along the way.....

Paul
 
Anyone that thinks pasture raised non GMO chicken is not tasty or profitable needs to google the words "Label Rouge"


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(quoted from post at 14:23:13 07/11/18) I have to say,,the best and tastiest chicken I ever ate was some very old chickens I helped my neighbors grandma butcher.When I started cooking it,it got as tough as a football.I let it simmer for many hrs. When the chicken finally got tender enough to eat,it was fantastic.The broth and soup was great too.The chicken meat became tender enough to eat,but didnt turn to mush,It was really good.

That's the way my grandmother cooked meat that was tough, chicken, squirrels, rabbits', round steak etc. She would brown the meat in a frying pan, coat it in flower, put it back in the pan and add about an inch of water. Turn the heat down to a simmer and put a lid on the pan. About three hours later it was ready to serve. The sauce in the pan made an excellent gravy.
 
Just wondering in some grazing set ups they have chicken tractors follow the cattle. It's always fun to watch them they can surely make something fly if there scratching around looking for bugs.
 
Hey,did you hear the latest? They're putting GMOs in food now that,if mixed with organics in prepared food,will let off a toxic poisonous gas and kill you right in your own kitchen.

You know it has to be true,you just read it on the internet.
 
Ma used to have to cook everything that way. Dad never raised a good grain fed steer to butcher,all we had was some old Holstein cull cow that was tough as nails. They had to be boiled. I remember lots of old gals around the neighborhood would can their beef so they could cook it faster when they wanted it. The chickens always got boiled before they were fried or baked.

Thank God those "good old days" are gone.
 
(quoted from post at 06:36:08 07/11/18) Actually goats have taken the place of hogs as being 'Mortgage Lifters' about the most profitable animal on a farm these days.Used to be an old saying "Cattlemen dressed like they were millionaires and had 10 cents in their pocket while hog farmers dressed like they had 10 cents and were millionaires'.

Was that before or after the travel ban??
 
Yep, Randy, I remember it well. Anything good enough to sell got sold, and we ate the cull cows. Jerseys had the added feature of yellow fat, which was kind of nauseating to me. Lots of pot roasts cooked until they "gave up", steak was browned then put in the pressure cooker for "Swiss steak", etc. The only thing that wasn't tough was the hamburger.
 
When we had old laying hens past their prime that's about all that could be done with them pretty good really.If you want a good frying chicken it has to be a young one.
 
(quoted from post at 17:50:52 07/11/18) Ma used to have to cook everything that way. Dad never raised a good grain fed steer to butcher,all we had was some old Holstein cull cow that was tough as nails. They had to be boiled. I remember lots of old gals around the neighborhood would can their beef so they could cook it faster when they wanted it. The chickens always got boiled before they were fried or baked.

Thank God those "good old days" are gone.


Before the deep freeze came out everything was canned or cured. Pork was cooked and packed in crocks with lard poured on top to seal it in. Hams were cured in salt and buried in the oats bin until they were needed. Grandpa never shot any of the beef or hogs he butchered. He would crack the steer in the head with the back side of a single bit axe. After it dropped he would cut it's throat. Hogs were held down and "stuck", then let up and walked to the scalding pot. By the time they got there they dropped dead from lack of blood. Farming wasn't for the squeamish in the old days.
 
Right now the folks that don't like how animals are raised, environmentally active folks who don't like the chemicals and such are getting their messages to consumers. And the consumer is speaking to you when they are willing to pay more for the same thing. And what do you do? Ridicule the folks with the cash/checkbook/debit or credit card in hand! On a forum that 99.999999999999999999999% will never read. That should be real effective for you guys!


Another thing you guys should look at. Is how to make yourself profitable or more profitable. Now if you tell me you are profitable then why are farmers complaining about prices???? So if corn is 3.50 a bushel and you get 190 BPA and organic 8.50 and they get 170 per acre who's more profitable? Even at 100BPA at 8.50 it's still more profitable. Especially sense their cost for inputs is less than yours! This isn't about how much you can produce on an acre. It's about profit per acre. Same with animals. It's about how much profit. Gotta figure what the value of any crops you raise or feed you buy. Grounds and buildings costs included. So none of this is about the choices the consumer makes. This is about you being profitable/more profitable.

Rick
 
The price paid to the farmer for organic is only higher than the standard commodity because there is a shortage of organic product. Simply a supply and demand equation and that can easily change.
 
Why would anyone want to criticize pastured chickens? Or even organics? If this stuff sells, than give them what they(the paying customer ) wants. I have Angus cattle. That doesn't mean they are the best tasting, or grow better. They just sell easier and bring a little more at sale time. You can argue all day and night if John Deere tractors are better than anything else, but they do bring more money and sell fast. If people are willing to pay extra for a chicken that walked around in its own pasture so be it. In fact if the customer is willing to pay extra I would even take pictures. I think most of us should make a choice. Do we want to be part of a growing "fad" and be making money, or follow all the rest of the other guys who laugh at this "fad" while slowly are going broke. Think I would rather be laughed at for raising a chicken on pasture than laughed at for having an auction after going bankrupt. We are all in this together. Conventional or organic/all natural, we are all farmers trying to make it. Every day there are less and less of us. Each to his own. Al
 
Takes about 2 years depending what it is Idaho and then you pay a fee for the certificate every year dairy cows have to go a year before the milk can be sold as organic if they came from a conventional farm and she can?t be sold as organic beef when she?s done her calves can organic feed is about twice the cost of conventional feed and lower quality
 
Al,the only problem any of us have with it is the way it's promoted with lies about conventional agriculture. Instead of correcting misconceptions about it,they purveyors of organic,fleece consumers by playing off their ignorance so they can take their money. If can't stand on its own without promoting lies about its competition,it can't be worth much.


And before anybody thinks I'm calling these "wealthy,educated consumers" stupid,learn the difference between stupid and ignorant.
 
(quoted from post at 14:50:48 07/11/18) Why would anyone want to criticize pastured chickens? Or even organics? If this stuff sells, than give them what they(the paying customer ) wants. I have Angus cattle. That doesn't mean they are the best tasting, or grow better. They just sell easier and bring a little more at sale time. You can argue all day and night if John Deere tractors are better than anything else, but they do bring more money and sell fast. If people are willing to pay extra for a chicken that walked around in its own pasture so be it. In fact if the customer is willing to pay extra I would even take pictures. I think most of us should make a choice. Do we want to be part of a growing "fad" and be making money, or follow all the rest of the other guys who laugh at this "fad" while slowly are going broke. Think I would rather be laughed at for raising a chicken on pasture than laughed at for having an auction after going bankrupt.

Well said! And the guy standing there with cash/good check/debit or credit card is king. When you guys who hate this idea so bad go to the store do you just buy whatever is there or do you want certain items in brand/size/color you want? IT's the same thing only you are the supplier and have to learn to produce what the customer wants.

Rick
 
170 bpa for organic just where did that happen you are dreaming cause it just didn't happen prove it with wts and photos.
 
Actually just the opposite has happened the more educated the consumers have gotten the more they have gone for organics.Many people are fully aware and understand GMOs,farm chemical use,
growth hormones etc etc and they just don't want food they eat to be associated with all that.They are educated about conventional agriculture and they just don't want its products.
 
Companies are in business to make money and be responsible to their shareholders.Why should they care about individual farmers welfare large or small? I don't expect or want some sort of
pity from them or anyone else because I'm a small farmer.Pity is for the Pathetic.
 
Some people just refuse to accept that people don't want what they have to sell/offer,as you say the consumer of a product decides the fate of that product in the marketplace.So if
a person/company doesn't want to change then its like a train 1)get on board 2)stand to the side and get left 3)Try to stop it and get run over.
 
The ridicule comes because these people know that you can't feed a hungry and ever-growing population on the outputs of organic farming. Only the rich will be able to eat; the poor will starve, then riot, then revolt. Who will they go after first? The farmers, because they're the ones with the food.

The government WANTS food to remain cheap so that even most poor people can afford to eat. If you're not hungry, you're not complaining too awful much. Yes, our food is CHEAP. In many countries 90%+ of your after-tax income goes to food. Here in the USA, it's something like 10%.

...and 170BPA corn from organic farming? Try 90. That would take care of the corn overprodution problem in no time flat.
 
(quoted from post at 05:05:50 07/12/18) The ridicule comes because these people know that you can't feed a hungry and ever-growing population on the outputs of organic farming. Only the rich will be able to eat; the poor will starve, then riot, then revolt. Who will they go after first? The farmers, because they're the ones with the food.

The government WANTS food to remain cheap so that even most poor people can afford to eat. If you're not hungry, you're not complaining too awful much. Yes, our food is CHEAP. In many countries 90%+ of your after-tax income goes to food. Here in the USA, it's something like 10%.

...and 170BPA corn from organic farming? Try 90. That would take care of the corn overprodution problem in no time flat.

Look I'm not into the argument over crop safety. What I'm trying to point out is that wasting time and energy trying to convince what very few on here hasn't changed one mind in recent history. You guys need to get this message out to the masses. You are not doing a very good job at that while the anti GMO anti animal crowd has. I'm convinced that most of the stuff on the cage free/free range/grass fed stuff with animals comes from PETA. I think they are smart enough to understand that they are not going to break the masses of eating meat but they can force prices higher reducing demand. Same with the anti GMO crowd. I think environmentalist are behind that. All the chemicals scare them. Using the news media both have done a great job of informing the masses of things they want to masses to know. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. They are getting the message out. The farmer is not.

And even at 90 bushels per acre at the stated 3.50 and 8.50 prices? The GMO crop at 190 bushels per acre? Do the math The organic guy will still make 100 bucks more per acre gross. Now some claim that it cost about 390 bucks an acre to plant GMO corn. Plus fuel and equipment depreciation. Cost the organic guy about 145 per acre including buying organic chicken litter to fertilize with. So he's going to gross 100 more per acre. Then spend about 245 less per acre to plant. Now he's 345 per acre better off. So the only thing left to figure out is fuel and depreciation. I really doubt the organic farmer is going to spend 345 more per acre on fuel and depreciation.

Right now about 1.2 million acres of farm land in the US goes into gas tanks per year. 1.2 million acres that could be used to feed the masses. Plus over 18 million acres of US farm land is idle just this year. At 90 BPH? 1.2 million plus 18 million X 90 comes out close to 2 billion that BILLION with a B bushels of corn that could be used to feed the masses.

That's what conventional growers would like you to believe. But there are hundreds of millions of acres of farm able land [b:7b7ab41342]world wide[/b:7b7ab41342] that's either never been farmed or just sitting idle. Plus how many more acres growing corn and beans destine for the gas tank what could raise something else.

This is what the "ignorant" people rrlund ridicules all the time see. The conventional farmer making claims about how the world will starve while raising non-edible beans and corn to send to bio fuel plants. So average Joe consumer sees what they consider a lie. Strike one! Then they see stuff in the news about the plight of the farmer. And in that story they see a nice house, 60,000 buck truck and a 250,000 tractor. And a guy who owns 500-1000 acres or more. Strike 2. Then they are told that they get healthier food from better farming practices and then see the conventional farmer calling them ignorant or fools (you can bet the organic and sustainable farmers are making sure they know what guys like rrlund are saying). The worst thing in the world short of murder you can do to a potential customer is have them find out that you think they are dumb. Not only will they do everything in their power to keep you from getting their money they will try to convince other consumers to do the same. So foul ball.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 14:56:33 07/11/18) Do you really think these big companies care about the small farmer ?


LOL same is true about the companies that produce bio fuels. The only thing they care about is if they can keep the farmer overproducing to keep the prices down. They love over production! Cheap corn and beans keep their production cost down. And that's all they care about. The bottom line!

So you guys should be encouraging folks to go organic. Every acre that gets put into organic is one less acre directly competing against you!

Rick
 
How many people do you know that eat field corn? Mostly corn is now used to fatten cattle and hogs,make ethanol and make a substandard sugar that's increasing obesity.On a similar note
you walked down the street lately? Looks to me like people could do with a little less food anyway.The "Everyone is going to starve" stuff is totally absurd only adds to the
feeling the public has they are being lied to anyway by the Industrial Ag community.
 
(quoted from post at 09:39:44 07/12/18) How many people do you know that eat field corn? Mostly corn is now used to fatten cattle and hogs,make ethanol and make a substandard sugar that's increasing obesity.On a similar note
you walked down the street lately? Looks to me like people could do with a little less food anyway.The "Everyone is going to starve" stuff is totally absurd only adds to the
feeling the public has they are being lied to anyway by the Industrial Ag community.

TF, I've said the same thing before too. It is kinds funny how the same guy goes on about people starving is the same guy planting non edible beans and corn destined for the gas tank don't you think? Got a guy up here who claims he's netting about 35K a year doing farmers markets and CSA's for veggies. He does free range chickens too. Young birds at that. He gets 11-12 bucks a bird dressed and frozen.

Rick
 

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