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HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine???

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JD

11-15-1998 15:41:44




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I posted this before and seems it got lost.

I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as the Mazda?

thanks,
Jay




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Rickey

02-09-2000 11:58:52
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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  
: Where can i find Satoh tractor parts



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Steven Simoni

02-11-2001 14:54:34
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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to Rickey, 02-09-2000 11:58:52  
I am rebuilding a satoh engine, did you ever find the parts to the 650g

Steven



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Douglas Grones

04-24-1999 07:34:43




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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  
: I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : the Mazda?

: thanks,
: Jay

I have a Satoh S650-G that came with a repair manual for the S550-G that also lists all the specifications for the S650-G. It states that the engine is a Mazda Model PB 60.2 cu in(987cc). I have tried to track this engine down through several parts distributors (tractor, automotive, and industrial) but have had no luck. The Stull Company in PA can get new parts but at $500 for a water pump, $165 for a piston, $218 for a sleeve, and $350 for a ring set it is rather outrageous. A complete overhaul would run about $4000. Seems like this engine was used only in this tractor and in some forklifts. I found one industrial fork lift company who used to have complete new engines but they had sold the last one. When you cross reference the oil filther to current applications the only match is with early model (early 70's) Honda engines of around 1.2 liters. I am trying to chase this down to see if Honda may have used a small Mazda engine at that time or if it is just coincidental that the filter is used on both engines. I also have Lucas part numbers for the ignition components that I am trying to trace back to an alternate application. Will keep you posted.

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Dave Sobczak

11-17-1999 21:45:17
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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to Douglas Grones, 04-24-1999 07:34:43  
I also have a Satoh Tractor S650G. I've done some digging and your correct, this motor was only used in Yale forklifts back around 1971 through 1973(other than this tractor that I can find). I have found part numbers for the points (same as Mazda RX3 1971-73) and distributor/rotor (same as Yale forklift truck same years,71-73. NAPA got the parts for me. I kept the boxes so I have the part numbers if you need them. Other than that a source you might try is Homestead Tractor in Apple Valley, CA. (760)240-1610. The parts there were also fairly pricy. Dave

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C J

12-08-1998 17:29:09




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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  

: I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : the Mazda?

: thanks,
: Jay



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c j

12-08-1998 17:32:11




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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to C J, 12-08-1998 17:29:09  
try 1974 thats what they say my 650g is
sorry im new at this computer thing



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Dan (IN)

11-17-1998 14:45:46




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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  
: I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : the Mazda?

: thanks,
: Jay

Who told you that the Satoh had a Mazda engine? Satohs were made by Mitsubishi. They didn't want to use the Mitsubishi name--it seems some people with two digit IQ's have a problem with it. I'd check with your local Mitsu dealer.

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JD

11-17-1998 18:06:41




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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to Dan (IN), 11-17-1998 14:45:46  

: : thanks,
: : Jay

: Who told you that the Satoh had a Mazda engine? Satohs were made by Mitsubishi. They didn't want to use the Mitsubishi name--it seems some people with two digit IQ's have a problem with it. I'd check with your local Mitsu dealer.

A had a guy work on it some time back. He thought it was a Mitsubishi engine and was having trouble
with getting the right parts, until he found out it was a Mazda engine... I don't think it's a reflection of
anybody's IQ. It could be an honest mistake on anybodies part, including yours... couldn't it :)

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Paul Fox

11-16-1998 03:25:34




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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  
: I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : the Mazda?

: thanks,
: Jay

Jay, I don't know the answer to your question. I just wanted to let you know that there are people on this board who honestly want to help, and stay focused on tractors and equipment, as opposed to sounding like a member of the Redneck Militia. If I should come across any information for you, I'll sure post it. My momma use to say, "If you don't have anything helpful to say...Dont!"

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Ron Crammer

04-19-1999 09:25:26




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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to Paul Fox, 11-16-1998 03:25:34  
: : I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: : I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: : in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: : and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : : the Mazda?

: : thanks,
: : Jay

: Jay, I don't know the answer to your question. I just wanted to let you know that there are people on this board who honestly want to help, and stay focused on tractors and equipment, as opposed to sounding like a member of the Redneck Militia. If I should come across any information for you, I'll sure post it. My momma use to say, "If you don't have anything helpful to say...Dont!"

Paul, I had a problem with my alternator on my 650g, after exhausting myself with dead ends I found myself an automotive electrical/alternator repair shop, I was able to pick up a replacement and yes it was off of a Mazda. Hope this helps....

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Mark

01-09-2000 15:15:27
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 Re: Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to Ron Crammer, 04-19-1999 09:25:26  
check out this http://www.mazda.com.au/models/603.htm

Mark



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WW II vet

11-15-1998 16:34:12




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 Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to JD, 11-15-1998 15:41:44  

: I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : the Mazda?

: thanks,
: Jay

Buy American



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JD

11-16-1998 18:22:28




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 Re: Re: HELP! Satoh 650G = Mazda car engine??? in reply to WW II vet, 11-15-1998 16:34:12  
: : : I posted this before and seems it got lost.

: : I'm told a Mazda 197x car engine is the same as the one
: : in my Satoh 650G. Can anybody tell me EXACTLY which year
: : and model Mazda? Would the alternator also be the same as : : the Mazda?

: : thanks,
: : Jay

: Buy American

Would you happen to know what the "A", "F", "N" and "E" wires
stand for on the alternator? These are American characters :)
thank you.

JD

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