No till soys into heavy hard ground

Nick m

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I've never no tilled soys into this field. Have in every other field we have with very good results. Dirt varies wildly around here. Now that things are finally drying out, I'm second guessing myself on this chunk. It's heavy dense ground on the wetter side. As it's drying, it's getting hard. As long as I can get the seed where it goes, will all be Ok? I guess I'm looking for people with experience in this similar situation and results. Been eyeballing the chisel plow wondering if I should grease it up.
 
As long as there is an inch of cover it should be OK given timely rains. Chisel plowing may dry out the top couple inches of soil, hurting germination. No tilling may preserve enough moisture to sprout the beans.
Ben
 
What are you planting with??? A good planter and you will be fine on seed placement. A JD no till drill will plant in concrete if set right. A Drill with a colter cart might have trouble.

June 1st with the ground just drying out, would not be the time or place to chisel plow. You could very easily end up with a dry cloddy seed bed. Chisel plow as early as you can, not just before planting.
 
I have a deere 7000 which seems to work ok. Also rent the neighbors 1590 drill which will get it in if the planter won't. Was more concerned with how the plants will react to such hard ground.
 
With adequate rain fall the soybeans will not have an issue with hard ground. Just make sure you get good seed coverage that does not crack back open over the seed trench. The root system will develop in the soil fine.

Late heavy tillage would be much more risky at this time. You can easily get the ground too dry in the seed zone. So you can have emergence issues.
 
WE use a Great plains drill with a no till caddy with coulters and our beans will come up,WE tried a 750 JD drill and got tired of replanting to get a stand ,It did not stay around long.
 
I'm no expert, but the field beside me is clay and flint. the BTO that puts no-till beans in it can't get some of the seed in the ground, probably 25% is on top of the ground and he still gets a real good stand of beans. last year he ran a disc over it before planting.
 
Check to make sure your closing wheels are doing their job often. If you can get that seed some good soil contact and coverage all will be well. I went to one spike tooth closing wheel along with one regular on my 1760 planter for this reason. I needed it to break the wall of the furrow just a bit so emergence was better. Keep checking and make adjustments as you go across the field if possible. I have one quarter that I think got three different spring pressures on the closing last year.
 
Your last paragraph is interesting and much different from around here. Here no-till just doesn't work for most, it's too cold and wet most times. Best here is fall tillage, but if you don't get that done then plow, work and plant same day if possible. If you work it early and it starts to rain it turns to soup and stays that way much longer than unworked ground, delaying planting. I'm always envious of how forgiving your climate and soil is, of course its worth 3-4 times what ours is too.
 

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