O T--Buying on eBay

Jiles

Well-known Member
A lot of potential buyers on eBay, do not realize the Feed Back Rating calculating of sellers.
To me, a sellers feed back rating is very important.
For example:
I found an item and the sellers rating was 100%.
But--------I checked the sellers rating history and found several negative and neutral ratings. I passed on the item.
Apparently, eBay starts a seller with a 100% FB rating after about a year.
I guess this is good for sellers but might not be for buyers?
 
Apparently, eBay starts a seller with a 100% FB rating after about a year.

Curious about this line. Whats the source? How is that done? Are you saying if someone had negative feedback it clears after a year? That obviously doesn't seem right.
 
(quoted from post at 16:45:31 04/23/18)
Apparently, eBay starts a seller with a 100% FB rating after about a year.

Curious about this line. Whats the source? How is that done? Are you saying if someone had negative feedback it clears after a year? That obviously doesn't seem right.

This is the item I was interested in---

https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=boopahandherbie&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=273173212393&sspagename=VIP%3Afeedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller
 
I would not dismiss a seller for a bad feedback or 2 over a year ago. I would READ the feedbacks to see if they seem really justified. After all, some buyers cannot be satisfied.
Also note that there is more that goes with a bad feedback than just the feedback. eBay has a strict policy towards sellers, and in most cases, disputes are settled in favor of the buyer.

I have a couple of friends that sell on eBay. It just isn't all "peaches and cream" for the sellers. So-called justice is very much in favor of the buyers.

One fellow that sells book had a customer buy a book from him only to return it shortly afterwards claiming that it was damaged. He returned a different book. When the seller refused to refund it, eBay tried to force him to refund it through arbitration. He ended up winning the case because the book had unique identifying information in it that he had previously documented. The buyer had returned a different edition of the same book and tried to put one over. Without that proof, eBay would have favored the seller. The buyer then posted a negative feedback on the transaction. Would you think that this is fair? Again, he had a battle to get that downgraded to a neutral.

The point is that if a seller has a couple of negatives over a period of years, I would not consider that to be a bad seller. Disputes can arise out of the most innocent transactions. Dismissing a seller out of hand for a couple of feedbacks is not fair to anybody. You really need to rethink your position. It could happen to you some day.
 

Perhaps one of us is misreading the feedback system. From what I see they simply only look at your last years worth of feedback. So if someone started out poor but has improved, or if they simply take a year off... you would have a better feedback. For your buyers case, they've had 318 transactions and 185 are from beyond the current year. That's about 50%. It's an old account though. If you look at his older history I saw 2 neutral and 4 negative feedbacks, some as buyer, mostly as seller. IDK how they do their figures, but lifetime, to me, that would be 98.44% positive.
 
(quoted from post at 16:45:31 04/23/18)
Apparently, eBay starts a seller with a 100% FB rating after about a year.

Curious about this line. Whats the source? How is that done? Are you saying if someone had negative feedback it clears after a year? That obviously doesn't seem right.

For some reason ? ? that link doesn't reveal my findings.

Just do an eBay search for eBay item number:

273173212393 and check buyers FB
 
Still the same guy. I don't see anything too horrible in the feedback, even the negative ones have responses from him. I'd be comfortable with 98% happy folks.
 
(quoted from post at 17:03:20 04/23/18)
Perhaps one of us is misreading the feedback system. From what I see they simply only look at your last years worth of feedback. So if someone started out poor but has improved, or if they simply take a year off... you would have a better feedback. For your buyers case, they've had 318 transactions and 185 are from beyond the current year. That's about 50%. It's an old account though. If you look at his older history I saw 2 neutral and 4 negative feedbacks, some as buyer, mostly as seller. IDK how they do their figures, but lifetime, to me, that would be 98.44% positive.

This is not an isolated case, I have run into much worse cases.
I only used this one as a current example.
I will not buy from a seller that has sold 3 or 400 items with several Negative and neutral ratings--regardless of time.
I also read the Negative and Neutral replies, and see if seller replied to those ratings.
I guess its just me but it may be a concern for others.
 
The system at this point is set against sellers, it favours the buyer without a doubt, and has knocked many small sellers off the site. I have been
selling aircraft parts, tools and militaria occasionally on eBay for years and had a 100% feedback rating until I dealt with one particular clown.
He asked tons of questions which were all answered correctly in a timely fashion and eventually won the auction. The items were shipped the
same day with tracking. The parcel took the estimated time to arrive and was shown to be signed for, yet 4 weeks later I get a notification of a
complaint that the items never arrived. I got left with negative feedback as soon as the guy lost his case, and the feedback didn?t even match
what the buyer claimed had happened, he put the items are not what was shown in the pictures. There are probably more dead beat buyers
than there are sellers, unless someone?s ratings are low, I read the feedback and base my decision on both positive and negative remarks.
 
Agreed. Every try to make 100% of people happy? Even if you give it away and pay the shipping someone would still have a b****.
 
(quoted from post at 17:52:04 04/23/18) The system at this point is set against sellers, it favours the buyer without a doubt, and has knocked many small sellers off the site. I have been
selling aircraft parts, tools and militaria occasionally on eBay for years and had a 100% feedback rating until I dealt with one particular clown.
He asked tons of questions which were all answered correctly in a timely fashion and eventually won the auction. The items were shipped the
same day with tracking. The parcel took the estimated time to arrive and was shown to be signed for, yet 4 weeks later I get a notification of a
complaint that the items never arrived. I got left with negative feedback as soon as the guy lost his case, and the feedback didn?t even match
what the buyer claimed had happened, he put the items are not what was shown in the pictures. There are probably more dead beat buyers
than there are sellers, unless someone?s ratings are low, I read the feedback and base my decision on both positive and negative remarks.
I totally agree-- Like what is fair about a buyer bidding up an item, wins the auction and refuses to pay?
Seller can't do anything but relist item.
At least that my understanding.
 
People expect a 50 year old part to be new,but that?s not the way it is.Fair wear and tear then they will give them hell and bad feedback
.For instance Marty Prill he has a good record and I have bought a lots of parts,all have been good and treats me well.l am just glad someone is
around to find old tractors and part them out.That is one hell of a job. Just keep up the good work EBay Sellers. I am very proud to have a place
to find things I need that easy.
 
(quoted from post at 10:09:34 04/23/18) People expect a 50 year old part to be new,but that?s not the way it is.Fair wear and tear then they will give them hell and bad feedback
.For instance Marty Prill he has a good record and I have bought a lots of parts,all have been good and treats me well.l am just glad someone is
around to find old tractors and part them out.That is one hell of a job. Just keep up the good work EBay Sellers. I am very proud to have a place
to find things I need that easy.

The seller just mentioned is why I no longer do Ebay.
 
Ive only had one problem with a seller on eBay. He never sent the item. I think he realized he was selling it too cheap. Anyhoo, I ordered a motorcycle battery late Friday afternoon and my mail lady put it in my hot little hands around nine this morning. How's that for good service? TDF
 
I don't think the set it to zero, but they do show the percentage of the last 12 months. So if a seller gets bad mark, it will not be used in the numbers after 366 days. But it is still available to read in the history. Seems fair to me as both a buyer and seller, feedback above 1500.
 

I have bought over 1800 items off ebay. On several cases, a seller defaulted or sold something that did not work. I complained, ebay ALWAYS refunded my money, but the jerk gave me bad feedback... SO... I have 4 or 5 bad feedbacks in 1800 purchases. NOW... ebay does not count multiple purchases from the same person, it only counts as one... So my 1800 plus purchases are really close to 2000 as I buy lots and lots of tractor parts each week off of ebay or amazon and a lot from the same companies. Amazon usually has the same prices but free shipping in many cases so in the last year I have around 40% of my purchases off of Amazon. Both always favor the buyer... Both work well. Both save a lot of money over any other source, including my wholesale accounts. Many many years ago, ebay did not have the guaranteed deliver policy that have today, so I did loose on a very few purchases. In one case the seller passed away, so I was out 26 bucks. But now days you cant loose if you document and report the no ship within the 30 day period. I have even had them back me up in 60 day shipping defaults where I documented correctly the seller asked for extension, but failed to ship. I have had a couple of cases where the USPS lost the package and ebay still refunded my money.

For a source in of used tractor parts, ebay by far, again by far, is the best and cheapest way to buy parts. Not a bad way to sell parts either. You must read the description as a lot of parts say... """AS IS""".... BUT ebay will still cover you if they are NOT AS DESCRIBED. I have even purchased a few tractors over ebay.
 
If they have 97-98% positive feedback I'll buy from them...Its almost impossible to please some buyers so I can see why 100% is hard to acheive...
 

Good Lord some people simply cannot be pleased. I don't care about anything over a year old. If the seller has been a good seller for the last year that is good enough for me.
 
If the number of transactions is in the thousands any negative feedback is almost meaningless. Often it is from shipping to a foreign country that lost the items . Not really the sellers fault anyhow.
 
I'm over 250 items purchased from them and in every case of a potential problem, which you could count on one hand, I got positive,
courteous service out of the sellers and ebay to ensure that my shopping experience was pleasant. These guys and gals have their act
together.....they have stood the test of time.....aka a quality product. Wink!

The other thing I like is how they handle the money. I don't worry about giving out my debit card number with them.
 

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