Shop plans and progess on the work shop.

This past two month I have been learning on what type of shop I can have. I am amazed with what my county will allow. I first wanted a all metal shop shed but that was not permitted. I had found out leveling property and pouring cement that this was very expensive. There was one loop whole I found to make shop look like a Barn or a garage. Being on a budget and being retired for a JOB. I was concern on spending all my hard earned money I had made to afford this shop. I still need to buy what goes in the shop in equipment. The shop looks like a garage unit (4 Car stall unit). The windows on one side face the California whites, the shop doors face the house, The ceiling goes from 9.50 to 12 foot high where the stalls are. The other side is 10' with ceiling windows. Windows all around the shop to let light in to the shop which is a must when it comes to matching paint work.
stalls are 14 wide and 22 feet long. inside no wall in work space totally open. The other side four sections are made tfo tool and Equipment that are needed. They are 10'X10' each. this work shop will not break the bank I hope. Please look at it and enjoy comment are welcome Thank you Brent.
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I would put the overhead lights between the stalls instead of directly above.

Not often your working on the top surfaces of vehicles.

Plus the open bay doors will block west side.
 
good morning brent, just going to throw this idea out there, in the top photo top left floor layout if i'm reading this right behind each bay door it is 22 ft. to the back wall (and 10 ft. storage behind that wall to the outside wall) and each bay is 14 ft. wide?? a suggestion here brent, on the left bay (looking down on the print) or even the 2 left bays leave that wall out to give you a 32 ft. bay. if your dismanteling a car or tractor or what ever it will eat up that 22 ft. pretty fast! BTDT, having a least one long full length bay will give you options. backing in a trailer to work on, a crew cab pickup is nearly 22 ft. long. let me know if i'm out of wack here brent I can't read the dimension #'s ? john.
 
Hi, nice plan! Would it be a problem to make the shop 2 ft deeper? I think you will find 22 ft stall is a bit short. You need to walk around what ever is in there with the door closed. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with whatever you do. Ed Will Oliver BC
 
I agree that 22' will be pretty short, especially if you're working on older "land yacht" type vehicles. I had a '48 Hudson in a 10 X 20 storage unit, and I had exactly 3 inches clearance front and back.

What is the reason for the 4 little rooms across the back? You will find having to deal with getting stuff through the doors is irritating most of the time. I realize that you have to support the roof peaks, but IMHO it would be much better to eliminate the little walls and just use a suitable beam held up by posts. That would also effectively lengthen the stalls to a usable length.
 
That looks great! What are the California whites?

Is the wall between the shop and the four 10 x 10 rooms necessary to support the roof? If not I would postpone installing walls around three of the small storage rooms rooms. Try working in it a year without the extra walls, the flexibility to expand your work areas might be handier than fixed walls.
 
That county is darned lucky to have anyone that will build in that place. I cannot understand why you cannot build a steel building. Steel buildings can be designed to be architecturally pleasing if that is important to them. Steel is far more economical and is exactly what you need. They must figure you are a rich guy from down south and they can make you do whatever they want. I built my steel shop in San Mateo county with no permit right under the noses of the planning commission.
 
I'd say Brent is pretty happy where he lives RPL. Have you been smoking something today RPL, some weird comments coming from Colorado.
 
JWM ..... yes, chickens ...... but also white folk living in California if you keep reading searches. Not sure which has more living there, chickens or people. Mind you, California White chickens can live anywhere while California White people are limited to California.
 
Thank you: you got it. the work space where the tractors go is an all open space. this allows me to put tractors in the shop in any direction that I need them in there. Which makes it very nice and easier to work on them.
 
what I was referring to is I live between the high Sierra and the California white mountains. I live close to the state line between California and Nevada. Just 6 mile more and I would had been in the Silver state.
 
One is to have racks in it for storage on Car parts and tractor parts. basically when you have a hobby like mine you are constantly buying hard to find parts for tractors and Automobiles. this room will allow me to put parts on racks and make them easy to find when needed. For use which has been a system I had at my old house in the big city. Doors, Glass, transmissions and three point rear end gears. these will be ready for installation when needed. The other little rooms will have Machines that I need for engine over Rebuilding and other type of work. One room is set to aside for tools and shop books and internet computer information.
 
I really do not know why> I was first going to buy a all metal shop from the internet but I was told make Shure you can afford a to go to court. This county is saying they do not stand up to the wind plus the snow load. they just call them a Eye sore I really think they want all of use to have a contractor to build the building.
 
Fewer doors but wider would be less heat loss I would think. also if you went with the center peak dismiss the window in the peak you could put a taller door in there for more length and higher for anything that might be taller ( buddies motorhome or such).
Other wise I like it. How about a pit for oil changes, or some anchors in the floor. To straighten out things by holding them in place as you pull on them with a jack.
 
I use to have a shop that they where 22 feet long and 12 feet wide. Sad to say I had to let the university take my house and the land (why) because Riverside California was growing over every thing I owned. Government said take the money or give it to use.
 
You where thinking the same way I was but the coast right now is killing my pocket book. that area has a roof drop and is down to a total of 9' feet. the reason is that whole side in the feature can be added on to a bigger structure. Which means if this is built out of wood it is easier to add on to it. I really wanted to have a paint both in there but for know I can not afford to get one. I have to say I am spending my inheritance money from my parents. I would like to still have some left over after this is built. Yes you got it right good looking and thanks.
 
No they are not. they are there for a purpose. which would be to set hard to find parts in and ready to put in parts in on tractors and Cars. A place for Machines to help with restoration work like buffers, sand blasting, floor press, and other stuff that is used for restoration work. one room will be for shop books, Reference center with on line computer to research information an what you are working on. so you do not have to walk in to the house to find that information it will be in the shop.
 
Some people just do not get it. the stalls are set up to support the beams of this building . They are going to also be used for keeping Hard to find parts and ready to install parts for Automobiles plus tractors. There is one with counters it is set up for a refrigerator to keep cold beer plus to hold the references and internet computer to research information on what you are working on at that time. I hate walking away and going to the house when I am deep in thought on a transmission.
 
Brent is very happy living up in the High Sierras. but have to say I screwed up I should had moved just six more miles and I would had been in Nevada. I like the open range and little town I live in. Thus is better than that big City I moved away from. they took 5 acres and did not pay for it they only gave me enough money for 2 acres. That is the government doing (WHY I SAY THAT I USE TO LIVE NEAR A state university THAT STARTED TO GROW) they FORCE ME OFF MY LAND AND TOOK IT. Great country I live in.
 
That is why I am going a this size. I have a slight hill drop not much but the land needs to be level up. the dirt to me looks like river bottom type (sandy). looks like it has sand and small rock, some pumice in it to. They will clear the bushes off and soak it down compact it down in a big level spot. That is why the coast for the pad is going to coast some money to do.
 
The California whites mountains are the big mountains between the High Sierras and Nevada. I live close to the Silver state Nevada only six miles away from the state line. I live between the High sierras and look at the Boundary peak of the /californai white mountains. I live in a small town of 300 people. all are famers, ranchers, and miners.
 
Yes. You have tall mountains on both sides of me. I would love to show you a picture but sorry I do not know how to post one on this answer.
 
looks good Brent but 2 suggestions. Like others have said, make one bay full depth. You won't regret it. You could put a loft over part of it for storage. The other suggestion is a small addition of a room for an air compressor. It could be added on the back or an end of the shop. Anywhere to get the compressor out of the actual shop so you don't have to listen to it.
As far as steel buildings....there are steel buildings that will handle the same wind and snow loads that the building you're talking about building. Perhaps the specific steel building you talked to them didn't meet their specs.

Looks like a fun project! Keep us posted with your progress.
 

I wrote a lengthy post of my recent experience while building my small 24' deep work shop only to find my pickup was 23' long, but my computer dumped it.

When you take out for stud size and interior walls you'll find that work space will be closer to 21' inside.
Not recommending making the building bigger but consider whats needed to keep one bay full length.
In my case I had to add 4' the the building but luckily hadn't poured the concrete yet. My now 28' deep shop is 26'10" inside.
 
(quoted from post at 09:54:25 04/19/18) What drafting program did you use, or did someone else draw them and these are just electronic file of it?

Per the address bar on his computer, he is looking at images of the cad file.
 

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