Heard kubotas getting really big

Philip d

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I sold some Oliver parts to a guy yesterday who happens to be a kubota dealer in Newbrunswick. We got to chattin and he said he heard inside rumours that they're working on pushing the M7 lineup over 200 hp and developing an M8 line that'll top over 300 hp. I read online that kubotas eyeing up North American fields and aims to be a serious contender. Not bad for a company that maxed out at 90 hp and 6400 pounds shipping weight 20 yrs ago. They'll need a 6cyl before they get my attention but I'm sure it'll come with those numbers.
 
Frankly, I would be surprised if Kubota was not developing larger equipment.

They have been successful in just about everything that they have done.

Kubota is becoming the Toyota of the farm equipment business.

Dean
 
The big bore 4?s like Kubota and Sisu have advantages in certain areas of managing emissions. Really no bearing on the engine performance if it?s 4 or 6, that?s a function of the cubic inches, stroke and the fuel management programming.
 
The market needs some more competition. I think you're right on the 6 cylinder engine being the next thing they need. The 4 cylinder is already at it's limit. They also need to work on the cab. It's decent, but it still isn't up to Deere or CNH standards. They also need to work on their emissions system.
 
Yes.

With JD and Case concentrating on dealership mergers, and Agco never figuring out which color to paint their tractors, it's nice to see an Ag company actually develop stuff and expand their line!

Paul
 

My son wrenches at a Chrysler/Kubota dealership and yes..Kubota wants a bigger share of the ag pie.

They have some pretty good size tractors...round balers too...they lack a combine suitable for Oklahoma and the great plains tho...ain't nobody going to buy a ten foot combine!
 
Like the kubota video said "37 workers build 50 to 60 kubotas every day"--Take them out of the crate and put the wheels on.---Tee
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Kubota has developed a reputation for durability, dependability, putting a quality product out there. They seem to sell more hp per dollar outlay that the green and red companies. Kubota may be watching closely the sales numbers for the M 7 new introduction to see how it goes then decide if bigger means more profit. One would think in this farm economy that not many new tractors are selling for any brand.
 
Kabota has a LARGE presence here in North East Georgia, Gainesville to be precise. They just built a "Flagship" plant. They have a HUGE complex in an industrial park that is off of the main road that has been there for a while. I do not know what they build there. I have not spoken to anyone who works there either. They have signs up in a lot of places advertising that they are hiring. I don't know anything about their equipment so I don't recognize anything I see being shipped. I do see a lot of lawn mowers and FELs on flat beds when we go to Gainesville for hospital and Drs. appointments. Dsmythe
 
I was at my dealer this morning and asked about this.

He knows nothing about any larger M8 series in the works but did say that Kubota is working on a small square baler for introduction in the not too distant future.

Dean
 
It takes a lot of capital and man-hours to design and manufacture new products. Like many other ag equipment manufacturers, Kubota may start out buying large engines from another manufacturer until their sales volumes are high enough to justify developing their own large engines. Many engines used in farm equipment are also used in other applications: construction equipment; industrial equipment; irrigation; trucking; generators; military; etc. It would be difficult to justify spending $10's of millions to design, manufacture and service an engine for a low volume product.
 
Kubota probably would do a lot better in my area if we could keep a dealer. We have had three to give it up in the last couple of years. Now the owners can't get them worked on. I get at least one or two calls a week wanting me to work on them. Most of the the time, I can't help them, I don't have and can't get the diagnostic tools to find out the problems. There are two tractors within five miles of me that needs repairs and no one to fix them. Nearest dealer is close to 100 miles and they really don't want to make the trip.
 
JD and Case dealers are getting spaced pretty far apart too, 100 miles isn't that odd.

The green stuff two brothers bought up 20+ dealerships, and condensed that down to 14 that are open.

Titan is pretty busy buying up red dealerships, and closing down the small ones. Around here they built a new building on a new lot, couple years later they closed it, that is some exepensive new building sitting there.

Paul
 
(quoted from post at 07:28:03 03/30/18) The market needs some more competition. I think you're right on the 6 cylinder engine being the next thing they need. The 4 cylinder is already at it's limit. They also need to work on the cab. It's decent, but it still isn't up to Deere or CNH standards. They also need to work on their emissions system.


Yep...........bot wasn't the v/6 written off as well until Ford brought out thr EcoBoost?
 
Sad thing is no one make them here. My little Deere came from Japan and mid size one if from Germany.
 
(quoted from post at 09:43:16 03/30/18) It takes a lot of capital and man-hours to design and manufacture new products. Like many other ag equipment manufacturers, Kubota may start out buying large engines from another manufacturer until their sales volumes are high enough to justify developing their own large engines. Many engines used in farm equipment are also used in other applications: construction equipment; industrial equipment; irrigation; trucking; generators; military; etc. It would be difficult to justify spending $10's of millions to design, manufacture and service an engine for a low volume product.

Kubota sells a lot of engines to other folks.
 
(quoted from post at 14:53:50 03/30/18)
(quoted from post at 09:43:16 03/30/18) It takes a lot of capital and man-hours to design and manufacture new products. Like many other ag equipment manufacturers, Kubota may start out buying large engines from another manufacturer until their sales volumes are high enough to justify developing their own large engines. Many engines used in farm equipment are also used in other applications: construction equipment; industrial equipment; irrigation; trucking; generators; military; etc. It would be difficult to justify spending $10's of millions to design, manufacture and service an engine for a low volume product.

Kubota sells a lot of engines to other folks.

One of our fire engines has a Kubota powered AC generator for lights and tools etc. Someone will yell "Hey, start the Kubota".
 
(quoted from post at 06:56:00 03/30/18) Like the kubota video said "37 workers build 50 to 60 kubotas every day"--Take them out of the crate and put the wheels on.---Tee
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Really Tee? Just who am I supposed to buy from? FIAT owned CaseIH? Deere who builds a lot of stuff offshore and imports some items to the US? AGCO who does the same? So just what is the name of this mythical company building tractors here in the US out of components ALL made here in the US in all sizes? Inquiring minds want to know???

Rick
 
We have 2 Newhollands,T4030 built in Italy and a T6 165 built in England. Also have a 1986 3505 Massey built in France.
 
Tee You need to get a little more information > Four plants there around Atlanta employ over a thousand folks.. No John Deer for sure but they do provide work for some folks. And yes they do not build tractors , they assemble tractors , but The RTV, most of the lawn mowers , and and loader and backhoe are BUILT there.
 

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