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Ken Christopherson

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Well, spent most the day today moving half of my tractors to my friends place which is about a mile from our new place that we close on next week. Will be quite the change. Going from a 990 Sq. Ft. townhouse with a single car, to a nice little home on about 2.6 acres. No pole barn yet, so the 2-car attached garage will have to do. Figured I would snap a photo of the tractors in front of my friend's shed (you can see his duck and chicken enclosure on the right side)... And an aerial photo of our new property taken some years back. Now all I need is a pole shed to put the 6 tractors into!
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Better make it bigger than for 6. Isn't that what you have now? Guaranteed you will double that in the next 10 years. Don't ask how I know.....
 
Just cover all of the grass on the right with a roof, and it will be big enough for a while.
 
I'll go as big as I can.. Eventually, she is going to tell me I need to sell one to get another... But, until that happens, I plan on putting up a 32X56.. Keeps everything on 8 foot centers..
 
That would be real nice. But I like poles on 10 ft centers, with trusses on 5 ft. That's standard pole barn construction around here, and it lets you put a 9' wide door in a side wall.

I built 60x60 and have had to add on.
 
The city we are moving to only allows for 1800 sq.ft. in an accessory building, so at 32X56, I am at 1792. 60X60 is a big building! I'm not
sure when we will be able to get started on it - I would like to have the posts in the ground this year if I can and go from there.
 
looks like a really nice place ken, now I can help with those tractors ken , i'll bring my 40 ft. trailer and the dually down and pic those 3 tractors up and store them here at my place :D , the one on the right there would look really nice hooked to my nh56 rake this summer HHHMM.
 
Thanks! It sure has been a long time coming. The townhouse was a 5-year plan when I moved in back in 2007, then the recession hit.. Some years made it feel like we would NEVER get out of here. It's almost surreal that it is happening. We are tying the knot on 5-18-18, so stay tuned for that as well.

Just want everyone to know - I am not gloating... I simply have grown up on these forums.. I have been coming since I was about 12-13 years old and am now 31. It feels good to share this accomplishment with all of you, as you all have helped me in many ways!
 
That would work for me - except now I am going to be in a place where I can keep all tractors at the same property! No more driving all
around just to do a little work, for once. MAN is that going to feel nice!
 
If you have to sell one to get another by her say so is not the woman to marry. Why do so many think an 8or10 foot wide door is so big? I want a 35 foot wide door by about 17 high.
 
My neighbor has 2 12' doors in side walls at on end of his 30'x48' and it is a pain to put multiple tractors in. I prefer doors in the end walls. 10' and 5' spacing seems wide for a heavy snow load.
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(quoted from post at 18:06:37 03/20/18) The city we are moving to only allows for 1800 sq.ft. in an accessory building, so at 32X56, I am at 1792. 60X60 is a big building! I'm not
sure when we will be able to get started on it - I would like to have the posts in the ground this year if I can and go from there.
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You own the land. Put up the building that you want. What does the city have to do with it?
 
You would be surprised. I am sure if I submit plans for a larger building, and get the neighbors approval, then the city council and planning
commission would approve it. But right now, what I am allowed is 1800 sq. ft. as an accessory building.
 
We haven't gotten to that point yet... Lol. I was thinking a 16' wide by 10' high door would do me plenty good. I'm not bringing in combines or anything.
 
Zoning and just about all places have it. Some are more strict than others on what can or cannot be done. You can apeal and possibly get a variance but then you just might not. Last community in my county without zoning just now getting it. And that zoning may just limit him to a 9' high and 9' wide door. And will tell him if he is allowed a 10' plow spacing or an 8' or no pole building.
 
(quoted from post at 06:06:23 03/21/18) You would be surprised. I am sure if I submit plans for a larger building, and get the neighbors approval, then the city council and planning
commission would approve it. But right now, what I am allowed is 1800 sq. ft. as an accessory building.
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Easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission, and you'll get a lot more done.
 
Ken,

We met at Nowthen and shared a few stories. Most important in your final dimension decisions is what snow load you are required to build for. With 8 ft O.C. posts and trusses, you can get 50#/sq ft with the correct purlin spacing. With 9 ft post and truss spacing, you can get 30 or may 35#/sq ft snow load. Today's barn metal gives 36" of coverage (width), so that may be a factor. I set all my purlins between the trusses on purlin hangars to give more structural stability. I used 2X6 purlins on the 8 ft truss spacing. If you go with 9 ft pole and truss spacing with this "set in" purlin method, you waste money buying 10 ft 2X6s and cutting them to 9 ft. The 8 ft spacing is stronger, a bit more work, and ~12% more expensive. Make your sidewalls as high as you are allowed. That only adds a small amount to the final cost, but makes your resale much more. Possible future owners may want to store an RV trailer or truck. My RV trailer needs 12'8" of height. My door gives 13 ft height.

Best Wishes with this huge step forward.... you'll love it!

Paul in MN
 
Thank you, sir! Our wedding date is set for 5-18-18... And we have been trying for our first child for quite some time now. About 2 years. We
found out Christmas morning that she was, in fact, pregnant - but by the end of that week it ended in miscarriage. Been trying again ever
since.

Seems as though we are trying to do everything all at once! Marriage, new home, and children!
 
Paul, good to hear from you. Hope all is well. I'm not sure what the code is, and I will have to research that prior to pulling permits, etc. I intend on going as big as I can, and as high as I can. Most likely, I will concrete the front half, and wall it off, then do class 5 in the back half. No sense in heating that big pole barn if I only am working in a section of it. Saves me money on concrete as well. I don't think we will be moving for quite some time (I/we have WAY more stuff than when I did when I moved in here)! I am having trouble even giving stuff away just so I don't have to move it. I guess a trip to the local Salvation Army or Goodwill is in order.

I can't wait to be in the new home... It will feel REAL good.
 
Ken,

I can't imagine moving my stuff either, but the city is on my case again. And the property evaluation just came in today's mail. The county raised my appraised value by $165,000 from last year. They want me to be gone so they can doze the place and my 2 barns and shop. It is getting UGLY!

Many jurisdictions in MN allow 35# snow load. My oldest son works for the Univ of MN in the Ag engineering and has seen many pole barns go down with heavy snow. Even if your place allows the 35# load, I'd sure recommend going stronger. If you are dealing with Menards for trusses and materials, be sure to specify what snow load you want, and get their engineering certification. To sell at competitive prices, they usually sell the lightest weight trusses they can get by with. We built my son's 36 X 65 ft addition with their trusses, but were very careful about specifications. And to support the end truss carrying a 36 wide X 14 high bifold door, we sistered 2 36' trusses together while flat on the ground, and raised them as a single unit. The bracing between trusses is very important so they do not curve out the bottom chord under heavy load. A curved bottom chord is a sign of imminent failure.

When you get closer to needing construction details, contact me. I'll show you what we have done.

Good Luck with all the moving and purchasing details!

Paul in MN
 
Paul, thanks for all the good info! I'll have to get in contact with you after we get settled in and I can start the planning of the build. Gotta see where we are financially before I can even think of a building. I look forward to it though!
 
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