OT - Semi truck weight

I may need to haul a mid 70's White tandem axle cabover w/sleeper road tractor. I'm having trouble finding the curb weight on the web. I know some of you guys have a good idea of what it would weigh. Can you help please?
 
A real close ball park would be 17,500-20,000 lbs. If you figure 20K I am sure you would be safe. The engine/rear ends/transmission all would effect the total weight.
 
I would say closer to around 15,000. Typical empty rig would generally weigh in from 29,000 to about 33,000. In that vintage, when cab overs were in common use and were the majority of trucks on the road, the weight factor was critical as well as overall length. the 80,000 pound STAA specification was not yet in force. Max weights were more in the vicinity of 73,500(?). That was the main reason for the cab over design. Also, in that vintage, trailers were generally 45 or 48 feet and fiberglass sides were common on vans. Flatbeds were more steel than today's arched aluminum ones. That meant that the tractors needed to be as light as possible because trailers were heavier then than they are today.
I would say that 15,000 to 18,000 would be more in line with the times.
 
Cannot give you exact number but I would say it is lighter then my 1963 Diamond-T tandem axle dump truck which comes in around 17,000 empty. I can bridge out at 48K wit ha full load and not be over loaded
 
These guys are in the weight area. You will either need to load on a lowboy or tow it to keep the height down to legal unless you are west of the river and not in MN.
 
I'm with JD seller here.A wild guess would be 17-20,000 for a tractor.Suspension can vary 1000 lbs.light rears or heavy rears can do it too.Engine-transmission combination can vary 1000 lbs too.A wet system can add 6-800 lbs.
Frame length,single or double frame,can be a huge difference there too.When you say mid 70's White cabover I would make an educated guess that it is a Road Commander,or road commode as the dealer called them back then.Most were sold as low cost,light,low powered fleet trucks,with light rears.If it has 34000 lb rears like a lot of them did I would guess the weight on the low side.
 
I would say that with fifth wheel and all she could go between 17500 and 19000 . My 1977 I H 4300 Cummins with sleeper with a Aluim. cab and sleep , the small one went 17500 and change with wet line .
 
I hauled one home on my gooseneck behind my Dodge dually. Yes I was almost 2 feet over height, and probably over weight, and it was not one of my smartest moves, but I made it and didn't get caught. The scary part was 100 miles in Ohio.
 

15-16000 lbs will be pretty close but I'd allow for up to 18000.

Had a 75 IH 4070B back in the 70's, 903 Cummins, 13 spd, 38k rears, steel tanks, aluminum wheels, pulling a 42 ft van it would lite weight 28500 with overall length of 54' 8"
Weight and length limits keep trailer lengths down to 40-42 ft back then, most vans where aluminum. 45-48 ft fiberglass sided vans became popular in the 80's after the uniform law took effect.

Before the uniform law states varied in weight and length laws, KY, OH allowed 80000 lbs and 60-65 ft lengths, IN only allowed 72000 lbs + 10% and 60 ft long, Tn was also 72000 but only allowed 55 ft length. Don't remember IL's limits but they split the axle weights, the front dif being naturally heavier with it's power divider if you where near the 34000 axle limit they would pop you for being over on the front drive axle by a few hundred lbs.

The mill I worked at has a 78 White Road Commander they use for a spotter truck, 350 Cummins, 9 spd, 38k rears.
I'll be over that way later and will try to measure the height, just a guess I'll say around 10-10 1/2 ft to the top of the cab, If you remove the stack and air intake pipe you should be able to haul it on a trailer with 32-36" deck height.
Getting the weight distributed properly will be a little more of a challenge, it'll weigh 10-10500 on the steer and only 5-6500 on the rear, almost needs to be backed on to a trailer.
 

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