Experimental MM on CL

Something like that he should have gotten it out of the shed to take the pictures. Some in too much shaddows ans some cannot tell what is it or what is berside od behind it. One pictures makes it look like it would have 2 rear wheels on the same side. I think a potential bidder would want better pictures.
 
that's a big no on the x. but a one of one that survived 80 some years. I never understood , on a collector site the bashing of rare tractors, be it low production numbers , features ,or unique history .like happens here, you might think the price is high, but who cant see the rarity of some of these pieces, over production models ,and no its not mine, nor have i seen it, but that's got a cool factor over the run of the mill tractor if its your color tractor or not.
 
I have no idea if the tractor is what he says it is but what does strike me as odd is how he stored this "valuable" tractor. If I had a rare $50K it sure would not be in a falling down/leaking shed.

I see this a lot of times, guys living in dumps with junk all around but they will tell you this car/truck/tractor or that one is worth BIG money. IF the darn thing is worth so much money then way not sell it and live a little bit better??????
 
It seems as if there are more MM EX tractors that survived compared to other makes. I know of a half dozen or so having seen them in person at a show, a thread on this and old-engine website, and for sale. MM must have been a little looser with there scrapping policy after there was no use for the EX tractor.
 
Neat machine. I like how narrow it is. I do have to question the "restored 15 years ago"... That is much more than 15 years of wear unless they really heavily used their rare machine for major farming, or the restoration was done really poorly. Even if it wasn't pulled out of the shed, a warm bucket of soapy water would have done it well for presentation.
 
One common issue is inheritance. If the tractor was part of a legacy, the new owner or executor may have just discovered the unique nature of the tractor.
The other issue that comes to mind is "cashing in on what I will need to keep going" Jim
 
My thought is it is very possibly a rare one,, and I have seen very rare stuff turn up in dumps like this,,and I also agree that it's hard to understand why...my old friend found a 23 spoker D in a falling down building in south eastern Ohio,,in an area that you would never expect to find a model D ,,an old guy brought it in to spin a saw mill years and years ago,,it took some work and it is a "Very" nice show piece now.
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Sorry, just ain't seeing 50K. In fact I ain't seeing 5K. I'd most likely pass on it at 500 unless you had some take it to the bank proof that it was a proto-type.

Rick
 
It's only worth what "some one" will pay for it...$50 Grand does seem high,,but find another one like it....that is where the value goes up..."If" we see $8 dollar corn again,, and "If" some one has a picture of their Great Great Grandfather standing beside one like it...actual value comes in many shapes and colors..to me it's not worth any thing,,I admire MM's..but they were not used around my area so I don't know much about them..I know they had a strong line up in their day,,with a lot of ideas that were ahead of their time. Again what an old Livestock dealer told me once "A good Calf don't have a bad color"....There is a lot of interesting old Iron out there and I love looking at it...and barn finds are Fun...
 
the sad part ken is no one even had sense enough to throw a tarp over that $50,000. tractor :cry: you do not put something up for sale looking like that! what do's he think all that pigeon crap is going to authenticate and add value to it?? makes me sick to see the old girl in that shape.
 
Here's a couple Experimental machines, been inside since 1975 ...

The Experiment, was to see if they would stay on the very land were they they arrived NEW:

Arrived by train to North Western Alberta, and are still on property that Tractor arrived on NEW.


Bob....
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wow bob are those at your place? they look like with a little tlc you could fire them up again. now that's how you store classic tractors, not sitting out covered in pigeon crap :roll:
 
I agree with everyone's comments. It's sad to see things in this condition - but I recall an episode of American Pickers where they went to a guys place and there sat a CASE car in about similar shape... I mean, CASE cars are about as rare as they come, and very valuable. The old man would not part with it.

I, too, am intrigued by MM, which is why I just recently picked up my 6th tractor for the stable recently.. Not rare by any means, but it was as complete as they come (only missing one bracket for the under-tank tool box). A 1944 ZTU. It is a learning experience, though. I have been messing with IH, JD, and Case my whole collecting life, so this adventure is a new one. Actually, just got back from playing with it a little. Managed to figure out the issue I was having... OR at least part of it. :)
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great to see you got the ztu up and running ken, watched your video of the start, the old girl sounds good. that's how you look after equipment of any kind. its just sad to see people let a beautiful piece of machinery just rot into the ground. I watched that episode of American pickers as well ken, and to see that old case car rotting away like that just upset the hec out of me! if your not going to do anything with it move it on to someone who will get it up and running, get it back out there on the road or in the field, it doesn't have to be an award winning restoration, just clean it up fix what needs to be fixed. a little body work if it needs it, a fresh coat of paint if you want, get it out so people can see it and enjoy it, and learn a little bit about our history as well.
 
Thanks, bud! I actually got to work on it a little more today. Didn't catch any video of it (got too wrapped up in it with greasy
fingers)... Did get some video of the Massey Harris the club picked up though. Got it running and it actually runs well with some good blue
smoke. Thinking #4 cylinder is the culprit on that one. Got oil coming around the #4 plug. Could be valve guides too.

Anyhow, the ZTU has a stuck exhaust valve on #3 cylinder. Going to have to pull the head and the valve to clean it up. My guess is there is
some rust/carbon buildup on the valve stem preventing it from closing all the way. Also ran it a little with oiling the valves (had the
tappet covers off). The valve oilers are plugged, all but probably 3 or 4. Good news is, no more hunting. Probably got the valves working
good enough to only have a miss on #3 cylinder. So that is good. Going to still do a thorough clean out of the crankcase, though. Lots of
sludge in there.

Looking forward to taking a little ride on the tractor though. I enjoy bringing them back from the dead, and actually like them original
now. Nothing prettier than a fancied up paint job, but the story that an original tractor tells just from its' look is hard to beat.
 
If it wasn’t for the casting numbers I would say this was someone’s handy work made tractor. Someone has to know more about it... why would you try to sell a one of one piece full of bird chit and dirt??
 
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wow bob are those at your place?

Yes, they are on 122 acres I purchased In 1974... backed them in ....Engines are free and Magnetos through a blue SPARK....:)



Bob...
 
Its hard to say what the value of that tractor is right now,if its a one of a kind prototype the sky is the limit and won't matter if its dirty or has bird doo on it the buyer won't care.
Those MM UDLX tractors have gone off the charts on prices and I can easily remember when most of the 'experts' with empty pockets were saying they weren't worth 1/10 what they
sell for today.50K might be a give away who knows.
 
Most people are not marketing geniuses. What the heck is he doing advertising on the Minneapolis MN Craigslist when he's in Salem OH? Between the price, being out-of-area, and the all-caps, I'm surprised the ad's lasted this long. Usually that's enough to get ads flagged and removed.

If that truly is an experimental tractor it has to go into a big time auction like the Mecum. There's no way it will ever fetch close to $50K on Craigslist.
 

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