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Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on.

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rockyridgefarm

01-13-2018 16:34:33




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I've sniffed out and bought several larger grain cleaners to replace my 47b I built last year. The demand for on-farm seed cleaning was a fair bit beyond my expectations, so I'm getting a bigger machine to get done faster. This one I bought sight unseen from Montana and didn't realize it didn't have top air, so I'm gonna sell it. It's a super 29a. I also have 2 29ds. One of which will hopefully be my machine for this year. Otherwise, I found another cleaner in Missouri I want to go after to see if it's what I want. Probably head out the 15th of February for that one.



I'm also trying to figure out if I should keep looking for the type of trailer I have in my head, or just build it. I want about 4 feet of enclosed storage at the front, 4 feet of open area below a surge bin to be able to change screens, 12 feet for the cleaner, and 6 feet out the back for a bagging area and a scale. It has to be a gooseneck, deck between the wheels, and no beavertail. I'm pessimistic that I'll find one.

Here's last year's machine on a job. It will be for sale when my new one is ready -

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TimWafer

01-16-2018 06:20:50




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Here is an old video I made kinda explaining how the clipper 2B works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUE2IiBtKrw

I still use it with a couple modifications. Got a reversible motor and got rid of the flat & twisted belts. Still would like to get rid of the clean grain elevator & replace it with an small auger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4zC9RDEnU

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Frank 41

01-14-2018 16:09:22




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Monsatan put these out of business when roundup came out. Clarence Thomas's first vote on the supreme court, was to allow Monsatan to patent seed even though he had worked for them.

Maybe BM(Bayer and Monsatan) will let your plant your own roundup beans. If the gene that they put in beans prevents this, you will just take an asprin.



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GeneMO

01-14-2018 11:22:47




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Just noticed, my 2B has a clean grain elevator on it, so it may be a later or improved model. Maybe the elevator was an option.

not sure.

Gene



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GeneMO

01-14-2018 11:18:40




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
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I have this exact machine in my barn. We use it a lot when I was a kid. Set up with an electric motor.

Gene



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caterpillar guy

01-14-2018 06:31:02




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
TEE the top screen looks like it is upside down in your picture. We have a 32 that we use some and have considered how to set it up to use in a more efficient way. The old shed it is in has a bin for about 200 bu over it with an old roller feeder from a combine to keep it from plugging from chaff,straws and such. Dad and grandpa put a bagger attachment on the front of it for bagging clover seed many years ago then had a littler MM combine elevator to lift it to the spout for the bagger. When not in use it would just spill into a pit to another elevator leg to put grain in bins overhead. We need to be able to clean faster for loading out on trucks or wagons when combining. This used to keep up with an old Gleaner E.

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big tee

01-14-2018 06:12:42




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  

Pics---Tee



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big tee

01-14-2018 06:06:54




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Hey Rocky--There is a BIG clipper on this weeks Purple Wave auction.---Tee



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RLP in Co.

01-13-2018 21:58:35




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Very interesting! Don't combines get the seed clean enough for planting or are you thrashing the crop? What type of seeds do you clean and how much do you charge?



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JD Seller

01-13-2018 22:04:12




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to RLP in Co., 01-13-2018 21:58:35  
RLP in Co: He is cleaning the seed to a higher standard than you do to grain sold in the general market. It could be cracked or damaged kernels, untrashed hulls, weed seeds, dirt, or anything that is not the targeted seed. This raised the germination rate and lowers the chances of seeding Weeds along with your crop.

The biggest thing the seed cleaners do is remove smaller things out of the seed. Most combines usually do this mainly by air flow. So if you get a small seed that is heavy it will end up in the grain tank along with the harvested crop.

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RLP in Co.

01-14-2018 11:27:10




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to JD Seller, 01-13-2018 22:04:12  
Thanks for that answer. Would not be good to plant weed seeds along with your crop.



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rockyridgefarm

01-13-2018 20:19:06




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JDSeller,

I don't think there are many AC72s around to do that to. That, and they're collectable enough that I would hate to do such a thing. I've been very careful not to spend too much on these Clippers so I can sell them off after cleaning them up for a small profit.
Funny thing, two years ago I didn't know a single thing about them. They're very interesting machines. Lots of parts are still available from AT Ferrell new, or used from Commodity Traders. Most manuals and parts catalogs are free on Ferrell's website.

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rockyridgefarm

01-13-2018 20:14:16




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Here's a few photos from removing a cleaner out of an old mill in Rice Lake, WI that is being converted to a brewpub. We got there about 7 am and were gone by about 1 pm. The machine was on the second story and needed to be taken apart and lowered through the hole. We'll be working on this one last. The next one came from Western Kansas and is in much smaller pieces. (last pic)







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JD Seller

01-13-2018 19:50:52




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
rockyridgefarm: Have you thought about taking the cleaning section off an AC 72 combine and turning it into your seed cleaner???? I saw the plans to do that years ago. You would have a lot more capacity I think. If I remember correctly the AC 72 had three sets of screens stacked like the Clipper seed cleaners. Be too long ago since I ran one.



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spitz

01-13-2018 19:45:39




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
If any of you guys are selling the larger cleaners I may be interested in s mn. I have a 2b and clean a lot of oats. Looking for something with a bit more capacity.



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rockyridgefarm

01-13-2018 18:50:13




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
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Lots of them were burnt and the metal fished outta the ashes until recently. In fact, the guy from Montana said he was gonna burn his, but decided to try putting it on CL first. I and it got lucky. The guy from Missouri said he almost burnt his, too, but thought he'd try selling it first. The 47b I bought and rebuilt was definitely ready to be burnt when I bought it. It was literally a pile of rotten boards. I got it out of Nebraska.

I was consistently getting 65bu/hr up to 125 bu/hr out of the 47b, depending on the cleanliness of the grain. Dirty stuff obviously took more time through and made a poorer sample. The bigger machines should do a fair bit better - 175-225bu/hr. I get much bigger screens, top air, one more sieve screen, and a second shoe. These should also make a cleaner sample as well.

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rockyridgefarm

01-13-2018 18:41:30




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
I have two 2bs and a 2b special as well. I also have a 16b. They keep popping up around here... Gotta keep rotating them so my dear life partner doesn't get a firm count.



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Adirondack case guy

01-13-2018 17:28:24




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
Talk to some trailer dealers. There should be companies out there who will build to your spec/requirements.
Loren



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jeffcat

01-13-2018 17:23:53




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to rockyridgefarm, 01-13-2018 16:34:33  
That is a pretty good size. When I was a kid there was an old hand cranked one in the old barn. Was a fadded red color. Had cloth screens in it. So sad, long gone. Almost totally made of wood. Maybe a quater of the size of yours. Makes you want to cry as to how much neat old stuff was just junked.



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big tee

01-13-2018 17:41:43




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to jeffcat, 01-13-2018 17:23:53  

Jeff, something like this--Clipper 2-B---Tee



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gab

01-14-2018 12:40:35




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to big tee, 01-13-2018 17:41:43  
That looks the one on the farm back in the 50,s. Don't remember being used much though.



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jeffcat

01-13-2018 18:56:23




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to big tee, 01-13-2018 17:41:43  
No this one was a diferent make. About the same size bit a bit chunkier looking. Can remember the screen would shake back and forth. My old man, if it wasn't needed anymore get rid of it.



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jeffcat

01-13-2018 19:19:38




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to jeffcat, 01-13-2018 18:56:23  

Here we go! Knew if I kept digging around I would find it. Think this is the correct one. Sure looks it.



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Jamstra

01-13-2018 21:00:28




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to jeffcat, 01-13-2018 19:19:38  
These must have gone global - most folks round my way in Scotland had the same machine! Spent many hours as a youth cranking the handle!



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glennster

01-13-2018 18:33:13




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 Re: Clipper seed cleaner I'm working on. in reply to big tee, 01-13-2018 17:41:43  
tee, i got one of them in the tool shed. i think i still have a set of screens for it tooo.



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