thinking shop.

These past couple of months been thinking shop. I really to get one built. So last night I did some looking on my records on the carport and tool shed I had at my old house. the reason why is that most of my friends think I could go smaller on a shop. So I was looking at what I had in here it is. Tool shed 12 X 12 tied up to work room 12 X 12 a small book storage or office space which was all in a 12 X 26 unit. Car port tied to it each stall 12 feet wide 22 feet long. One small 12 X 12 patio/ carport in back. The size was 34 X 38 feet square foot 1,292. Some how this always felt to small because of to many projects in the space. So I really like to say need more room in the new work shop. I am think a 100 foot by 100 foot shop. I have to say this is what I had at my other house that I had to move away from. At my new house I do not have nothing right now but plan to build one.
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You need different friends ! LOL.

I would doubt any of your "friends" here at YT would tell you to build smaller. Build as large as you can afford ! It will fill up.
 
100X 100 works, but is a bit unhandy for roof design and interior space use. I would do a modular approach with a starter segment 30X30 with doors on one side, and room to expand in one direction. Trusses and clear span design keep it simple and cheap. Expansion along the ridge direction then allows low cost increase in space with similar utility and door access. Jim
 
Your problem is more "housekeeping" than space. Start by building a wall of shelves to fit plastic totes.. Then move every box of junk in there outside,.Go through each one, toss what you don't need, Place the rest in storage totes, label, set on the shelves. Then recalculate your needs.
 
good morning brent, I used to work out of a 30 x30 shop way to small! so I built a 40 x 64 shop (wife commandeerd my old 30 x 30 shop) my new shop full already, going to have to do a clean up to get my mm m5 in for winter work over! I am convinced brent that if a man built a 200 x 200 shop he would have it full in no time. if any thing go bigger brent, 4 years after I moved into my new shop I built a 16 x 64 leanto on the south side to get my rv and equipment out of the sun and weather. when your laying out where and how big your shop is keep in mind room for adding a leanto on one side or both. having your stuff out of the sun and weather makes a huge difference.
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very good advice here from gordosd brent, about once a year I find myself having to do a clean up and re-organize! waaaay overdue for another clean up :lol:
 
If you live in a colder climate, build a shop that is heated that can handle 2 projects and your tools.

Build a bigger simple storage cold shed to house the junk and extra machinery.

Gives you a place to haul out the junk once a year from your good shop to store it in the cheaper per square foot shed. With a bit crowded shop you got to keep moving on projects and have to clean up now and then. No point in heating a storage area, which is what a single large shop becomes.

Paul
 

My shop is 40x50 x17 with an inner room in one corner that is 16x22x10. The inner room is heated and insulated. The outer main part is insulated as well and for the most part is heated by what escapes from the inner room. So I get double use out of my propane heat. I spend an average of $500.00/ year for heat.
 
(quoted from post at 09:53:41 01/09/18) Your problem is more "housekeeping" than space. Start by building a wall of shelves to fit plastic totes.. Then move every box of junk in there outside,.Go through each one, toss what you don't need, Place the rest in storage totes, label, set on the shelves. Then recalculate your needs.

Good advice, but in my case, I had already built shelves and even some overhead storage. Still didn't have enough room to actually take something apart and still be able to move around. Only answer was to build another building just for storage.
 
I like the idea of a two project shop, 25 x30 with an additional small 10x10 heated and cooled if you need that with lots of lights, drawers, pegboard, a vacuum, and everything close at hand. I agree that the smaller shop is easier to heat and clean and forces discipline in your work habits. Then have a separate storage barn where you can stack it full if you need to.
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:18 01/09/18) I like the idea of a two project shop, 25 x30 with an additional small 10x10 heated and cooled if you need that with lots of lights, drawers, pegboard, a vacuum, and everything close at hand. I agree that the smaller shop is easier to heat and clean and forces discipline in your work habits. Then have a separate storage barn where you can stack it full if you need to.

Depends on what your projects are. 25x30 is just big enough to bring a tractor in and split it. 10x10 won't cut it.
 
Hey TY friends thank you for your input. As you can see in these pictures this was taken while I had to move out of this house I sold. I had realize that when you take on project apart it becomes hard to move around in the area. I am a person who will do two tractors restoration job at one time. Knowing where every thing is. This allows me to keep going while I wait for the other stuff to get done to the other project. I have experience problems like getting around a project still on jack stands. You do bring up a good point about stuff that is no longer needed to be use. Since in to restoring Automobiles and tractors we keep those hard to find parts because that is what they are. Storage is some times a must. When I moved I filled up seven I got junk trucks and had a metal guy walk around picking up metal for three weeks. Not going to happen again I hope.
 
That metal shop is a nice looking one What brand is it may I ask. Mono county says if I make any thing over a square foot I have to have sprinklers in it. It can not be a full metal structure or containers because it will be a eye sore. That one looks nice.
 
brent my metal shop is a u.f.a. building (united farmers of alberta) this building is on sale every spring, it is a machinery storage shed, ploe construction 6" x6" posts with 2 x 4 strapping horizontal inside and out. comes with sliding doors, I got them to swap out the sliding doors for a 12 x 12 overhead door. the cost of the package in 2004 was $14,500.00 and another $8,000. for the crew to come out and build it to the lockup stage. I then spent the next 4 years finishing the inside nights and weekends, installing water and sewer system, wiring, cement floor, insulation, 9"in the walls and 28" in the ceiling, plumbing, hotwater system, pipeing in air all around the shop, and finished the inside walls with the same metal sheets as the outside. I estimate I now have close to $100,000. total into it with me doing the work.
 
When you were looking for property I was hoping you would find a place with an existing building. I know you have a lot of room there, but I would not want to start over like that. You are likely much younger and don't mind or look forward to building.
 
I would like to say thank you for your information. It took me a lot of time to hand write it down but I did since I do not have a printer on this computer. You say it is a United farmers of Alberta shed kit does this means it come from Canada? What I like is that it looks nice and where I live it is crazy I am in the sticks but the county building codes are very strange. So If I can get one big building out on my 3.16 Acres I will be happy. With out permits I can put up only a 10 foot by 10 foot. Yes I might have to get fire sprinklers installed but that is why I want floor drains in shop. County rule again for big buildings they say. Plus one big water tank on the well to run the water need for the it. Some times the list goes on and it is hard to please the county inspectors to. So Yes I am going to have to get a contractor out to build it. It is said realize but if I want it have to pass permits inspection and contractor should know how to do that I hope.
 

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