New Furnace Price

Guys ,i found another way to chew into my retirement savings, to the Tune of 9500 smakers,. And i am Not retired Yet ,,Just tell if i am getting aGOOd Deal ?Ok. My house is about 2200 + sq ft and another 450sq ft upstairs that heats naturally from the 1st floor .there is a 1200 sqft storage basement that will host the furnace and ducting and will not require heating other than a service duct in extreme cold like we just went thru in Louisville area ,.95% effeciency propane gas furnace,.80,000BTU,, 3 ton coil and York 3 ton A/C unit 14 seer (define the term ) 10 yr warranty on equipment ,. very little of the current woodfurnace ducting will be used if any.. no ducting to the upstairs ,.. it heats well naturally ,, But Cooling is another matter in the 90s plus summer heat,..I get good croos air ventilation opening windows at nite up there But AS the Summerwears On, it does more harm than good because of our HUMID ohio Valley ,. So ,perhaps i will bring a duct up thu the girls closet. like i always thought i would do ,. He will be able to install my hot water loop in the Gas furnace and then we can continue to use the water pipes and radiators and circulater from my outside water furnace that is out of service this winter,. i will be able to close off the valves and heat the loop with gas easily ... We have broke records here 12 days below freezingSTRAIGHT ,,.Never did that in our area before ,,,. Consequently I Have burned more woodin 2 weeks than i would in a month ,. thats more than i can cut and more than i careto do , with everything else i am trying to do with my rebounding health ,. i hate to spend the $$$$,but i know if i broke aleg My Sara would have to move in someone like US to fire the furnace or MOVE out ,, i can further justify this expenzenecaose i know both my a/c unit and my wood furnace are well over 25 yrs old ,the wood furnace dates to 1979 and shows it ,. If I were gone and my children sol.d this home,,. as beautiful as it is ,, with wood heat as the primary heat ,it will hamper the value .. . .
 
Hmmm, I just got an estimate today to replace furnace and a/c on a rental house. 1760 sq feet, two story no basement. 15 SEER, 4 ton with new condenser outside. Minimal ductwork and plumbing. $7500.00
 
I'd sure check around mine was about 1/2 that price but it is a generic knock off of a name brand. No trouble so far.
 
Just pulled the plug in October on a similar Trane combo, 95% efficient propane furnace 80,000 BTU, 3.5 ton 16 SEER XR series A/C. Lifetime heat exchanger warranty, 10 year warranty on other equipment. Got a $300.00 rebate from Missouri Propane Gas Association. Price before rebate was $9200.00. We heat with a Buck 91 catalytic insert,and had a Goodman heat pump for back-up. The A/C was only 3 ton, and had a hard time in our summers. With the recent cold snap here, we were glad to have made the purchase. Our home is 1800 sqft with a full basement, mostly unfinished.

Cut and paste definition of SEER:

"The efficiency at which air conditioners produce cooling is refered to as its SEER rating. SEER stands for Seasonal Energy Efficiency Ratio,and is a ratio of the amount of cooling produced (BTU) divided by the amount of electricity (watts) used. The higher the SEER, the greater the air conditioner's efficiency."

The installing dealer said we could buy a higher SEER A/C unit, and recommended the 16. The increase from 16 to 18 was higher than a cats back in a dogs house (IIRC upwards of 2 grand). HTH. Mark
 
We just replaced our natural gas furnace and AC for that price. It was a 120,000 BTU unit. We have a 2700 sq ft home, single story. In the realm of heaters and AC Units they classify them good, better, best. It's always best to do some research on the net as to heaters and how to select one for your needs. If you're not needing to give the okay immediately, do some reading and shopping. If you're going to be staying in the home long term, look to longevity of the equipment. Your name brand and higher end heaters will well pay for themselves over the long haul. You don't want to have to replace your heater in 10-12 years. Our old Trane lasted 20 plus years and we could have made it co a little longer. Hope this helps.
 
One of my kids just today got a quote to replace the 20+ year old gas furnace in her house.

The existing furnace failed Sat night while it was -8 deg outside. Emergency repairs - completed before the house froze - cost her $400. But it's clear it's time for a new furnace.

She was quoted $8,500 for a Lennox or Carrier "middle line" furnace, 70,000 BTU, 95% efficient with 2-1/2 ton A/C, installed. That's about what I paid 4 years ago for a similar American Standard furnace and A/C.

Since she's planning to be in this house until her youngest leaves home (about 18 more years...) my advice to her was to go for it.
 
I put in a new furnace about 7 years ago. Did the installation myself. Cost of just the furnace was about 1200, new plenum and extras drove the price up to about 1800 including the gas company inspecting the installation. The price I was quoted with installation was right at 4K hooking into the existing ductwork. I think I'm going to have them install air this summer. I had a hard time believing that a 1200 buck furnace cost 4K installed. The labor is a killer.

Rick
 
Those sound like reasonable numbers for what is being done. Higher seer is more efficient for the amount of power used. Higher seer also cost more money out front to buy. Having the most efficient HVAC equipment in the world will not help with fuel or electric bills if the space being conditioned isn't effectively tight, meaning, windows, doors, insulation in the walls and attic etc. As a side note ask about knock off brands,there are only a few places HVAC equipment is made and sometimes the only difference between name brand and not is the sticker on the front of it and the price. Keep in mind that no matter which furnace is chosen the actual work is the same so the only saving is in the equipment price not the labor.

Rrc300 u HVAC technician since 1999
 
This probably the worst time ever to get a quote on a new furnace in the Eastern USA just wait for warmer weather and let things shake out when the companies will be looking for work.
BTW I heat my house with a Fisher Papa wood stove I bought back in 1977 for $365 and I cut Black Locust to use when we have really cold spells.
 
you might want to go with a heat pump instead of an air conditioner, they are great in the fall and spring when temps are in the 30 to 60 range. I wouldn't be without mine.
 
Put in new propane furnace in fall of 16? , no air , 3500 sq house 100 years old. Total cost for furnace and installation, $4,500.00 ,. Second winter now, seems to work. We don?t need air, house is well shaded, and we would only get two weeks of intense heat anyway. Last year it was just a hour and a half spread across ten days , lol.
 
The SEER rating is just to cover up how shockingly inefficient air conditioning is. Notice how they use a simple percentage point rating for heating, but have this special scale for cooling.
 
I just put in a new Carrier furnace and ac. About the biggest of both for this old drafty farmhouse in So. Indiana. Cost $7500. Another estimate was a little over 8,000. So you may be able to do a little better if you shop around.
 

I agree that you should shop some more. Labor and installer profit are a very big part. I installed a new boiler and boiler mate in my house three years ago, to the tune of 3K, but I was able to buy the boiler and the package for wholesale. It helped my retired buddy to keep his supply house account going. Two years later I got a boiler at church replaced, smaller job, for 11K. The new norm in weather is very broad swings which drives both heating and cooling way up. You are wise to get ready, yet you should hold off until contractors are looking for work. It is well known that excavation bids come in lowest in the spring when contractors are hungry and highest in the fall when they are flush and busy, and it is the same with the other trades. You should look into geothermal as well. If you have an area next to your house where you can have ditches excavated to lay the pipe in, geothermal can be much cheaper than an installation using wells, and geothermal operating costs can be very low in a system with excellent heat transfer.
 
I just put new in a propane hot-air heat and a 3 ton AC unit. 92% efficient 80K BTU furnace cost $876, shipped to my house. 3 ton AC unit cost $910 shipped to my house.
 
Where do you live geographically .B&D ?. . will that idea work in the hot humid summers of the
ohio valley crud that causes sinusproblems ?.. the current ducting is filthy from 36 yrs of heating
,.and since it is a h pattern .i question the original design as flawed
 
I just thought I would say this please note: Is it a wood burning stove or a pellet burning. Pellet burning stove needs electric to make them work. If you are like me who face power outages because they always working on the lines. You might want to go to a wood burning stove. Just some thing to think about.
 
All too True ,. Trouble is , my son and I have time to oversee ,I Only know this guy as a fair and
honesguy who my son has used before on his rental house s.. The estimate is somewhat vague ,.does
not go into detail other than to state brand names and effeciency.and reducting . i dont want to
wait til spring like i did last year , and i did nothing ,. thinking, Next winter My Hands and legs
will Feel Better,.. guys , they are better , but i aint getting more spry with old age , and for
the 1at time i really worried about it with the day after day extreme cold,.
 

Bet you are paying mostly for the labor to install all new duct work. That is not easy or cheap. Company in Wichita gives the furnace free if you upgrade your AC - my buddy just did his 2000 ft' house with basement for about 3 large, but he didn't need any electrical upgrade or duct upgrades. Everything was remove and replace. It took three hours for two men.
 
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On the west coast of Lake Huron. The prevailing winds bring the pollution from Ohio and Michigan.
The lake when open does moderate the temperature 2 to 8 degrees warmer in winter and 2-6 degrees cooler in the summer . Also provides lots of snow streamers , almost as bad as Buffalo New York.
 
You are getting a lot of additional work done that is beyond a normal furnace and A/C replacement: new propane line (new propane tank too?), old ducts removed, new ducts installed, remove and re-install old hot water loop, new exhaust flue and new combustion air supply, etc. Those make it tougher to compare apples to apples with other peoples costs.

This is a busy time of year for furnace repairs. Your installer is probably swamped with work right now and can't put a lot of time into detailed estimates. If you can wait until between seasons the heating and cooling seasons, (March in your area?), you will probably get a better price and more detailed estimates.

You are smart for considering your heating needs out for as long as you will be living in that house, and when you are ready to sell the house. Many of today's potential buyers (80 to 90 percent) can't work with wood heat only. Having propane heat will make your home workable for most buyers, and the option to heat with wood will be a nice asset that adds some value.
 
Okay, I understand the improved effiency of the 'newer' furnaces. What is never figured into the equation is the 'Life' span. My old (1970) furnace had NO problems keeping up with outdoor temperatures. It was NOT what you'd call 'energy efficient'. That old gal would have lasted me my lifetime with the only 'major' repair being the blower bearings. It had a separate motor driving the blower; the new furnace has a blower with more in common with a 'box fan'.
 
Probably not out of line if he has to run all new duct work in an older house plus he will probably have to remove some of the existing from your wood burner. Close to what I have been paying for new construction of 1500 sq. ft. house with about the same equipment.
 
Put a new 96% Carrier natural gas furnace in the house a couple years ago. Furnace cost was around $1400. Installation parts & pieces & some sheet metal work added another $125. Rebates from the gas & electric company (DC blowers draw less electricity). Project wrapped up at just short of $800.

Being most of you guys are handy folks repairing and restoring tractors, I'm suprised more of you don't undertake this project. Furnaces are not that big of deal to install. Takes about an afternoon. A 110V line, low voltage thermostat lines, simple black iron pipe, PVC or sheet metal ducting. Pay $75 to have the furnace guy inspect it afterwards if it makes you feel better. For myself, parents, and friends, I seem to install a furnace every year or so. If you go down this path, just curl up with the instruction manual and go thru it front to back, highlighting things that pertain to your installation.

Have not dabbled in the AC side of the thing yet.

Pete
 
Maybe just go with gas heaters in the main rooms ? The unvented ones are 99% efficient and easy to hook up.
Then you can go with window mounted A/C units where needed in the summer. My daughter ran 2 of those last year and they did not seem to run her electric bill up that much. My built in A/C really runs up my electric bill though.
 
(quoted from post at 09:39:08 01/09/18) Put a new 96% Carrier natural gas furnace in the house a couple years ago. Furnace cost was around $1400. Installation parts & pieces & some sheet metal work added another $125. Rebates from the gas & electric company (DC blowers draw less electricity). Project wrapped up at just short of $800.

Being most of you guys are handy folks repairing and restoring tractors, I'm suprised more of you don't undertake this project. Furnaces are not that big of deal to install. Takes about an afternoon. A 110V line, low voltage thermostat lines, simple black iron pipe, PVC or sheet metal ducting. Pay $75 to have the furnace guy inspect it afterwards if it makes you feel better. For myself, parents, and friends, I seem to install a furnace every year or so. If you go down this path, just curl up with the instruction manual and go thru it front to back, highlighting things that pertain to your installation.

Have not dabbled in the AC side of the thing yet.

Pete

Pete, I agree. I wanted my plumber to install my new boiler with Boilermate in May, but by August I had not yet been able to lure him in so I decided to do it myself. It was big job, I worked on it off and on for two weeks, but I saved as I noted earlier some 7K. But I am a real man, I didn't read any instructions, LOL.
 
I just put a new goodman natural gas in our house. I think the same size/efficiency you stated for about the same price for just the furnace. Had about another $300 in misc parts. No duct work other than the intake. My uncle helped/Did most of it.
 

It seems that GREED has reared its ugly head in just about everything today. We installed a new furnace and AC unit about 15 years ago. Don't remember the cost, but it was nowhere near what you guys are quoting today. Also, the price of new kitchen cabinets has sored into the stratosphere. Too expensive for us, so we thought we would just buy new doors and fronts. Nope! The cost of those has gone through the roof also. We'll just make do with what we already have.
 
Seems a little high to me. Full disclosure here, I am a general contractor in Kentucky. In my own house, 1800 square feet first floor, 1100 square feet secod floor, with a 900 square foot finished basement. I'm in the middle of a major remodel, HVAC was part of that. My cost, 3.0 ton Goodman heat pump with electric auxiliary for main floor and basement, $1600 for inside and outside units. 1.5 ton Goodman heat pump for second floor, $1000 for inside and outside units (only 1 set of heat tapes in it). Duct work under 50% of first floor and all of second floor $450 materials, 3 guys 3 days $1300. 1 day to install the two units. $500 to HVAC subcontractor to connect, charge, and permit. Total out of pocket. 4 bags concrete for the pads for the outside units and that labor was around $50. $5100 total plus I did need to upgrade electric service from 200 to 400 amp (was doing anyhow but had to for the extra unit). Our billing on this job would have been $7650 or our bid on this job. If we did it bid as opposed to estimated $8800 . Once again, full disclosure, I can't quote without looking as to your needs for duct work and local licenses may vary. With only the one unit, maybe gas costs that much more? IDK... I'll also be the first to concede that even among general contractors, we're on the high end of the scale. I'd shop around a bit.
 

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