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O.T.Why NO response ?

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Lou from Wis.

01-03-2018 13:11:51




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I got to wondering if any of you folks had this situation happen to you.In December we lost our long hair German shepherd pal Jacob with congenital kidney failure.So now we went on line to adopt one.After filling out form, NOTHING happening.The folks who have GSP won't answer,but ask all kind of personal information.I'm beginning to think they aren't reliable only seeking information for what ever they are up to.I answered their request for adoption forms only to be ignored.Thought because we are not in their state,they wont allow adoption of the dogs.I told them they couldn't find a better home for their pets,NEVER!!!.Our vet will give us a good reference so what is their problem? Guess we will have to go to my pal who is a breeder to get one, but he doesn't have Long hair puppy's.Wondering what to do, any suggestions would be appreciated as the house is lonesome place for us.Thanks in advance for any help you folks supply.
Warmest regards;Lou & Victor.

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W_B

01-04-2018 12:30:03




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
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Don't get me started, just went through this when trying to find a Boston Terrier to replace one we lost in February. Same experience but did get some responses, the best were from the county shelters or humane societies. I think only one rescue responded and since they were distant the dogs were adopted locally.

We finally found an 8 yr. old female that was a voluntary surrender from a puppy mill in Amish country (Northeast Ohio). (As an aside I have no love for the Amish in general because of the way they treat animals.) She was at the Humane Society shelter in Licking Cnty. (OH). Awesome place with great staff and volunteers. There were 4 B.T.s that were surrendered and a bunch of Bichon Frise females. This girl was the youngest of the 3 females and the most friendly. When they got her she had weaned off a litter recently and she was in heat and only had 17 teeth, 14 that had to be pulled. Poor thing didn't even have a name, she was just a number. The shelter put the name Elizabeth on her, we call her Lizzy. Good little dog.

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ss55

01-04-2018 11:28:03




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
You might get a better response by going to your local shelter in person to see what they have, to let them know what you are looking for, and also to let the shelter see they are dealing with an honest person. Shelters have access to animals from other areas, they might arrange to have an animal shipped in if it is a good match.

Other alternatives are to look on Craig's List for dogs being given up or to consider buying a puppy. Many of the older dogs in shelters or being given up have been poorly trained, neglected or may be abused. Be aware that older dogs are not as trainable as young puppies are.

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Steamboat

01-04-2018 04:52:36




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Wife and I got snookered into performing an interview for a niece who is on a board of a rescue organization. The questions were so personal and intrusive that I suggested that we should not do this favor for her. They asked what family income was, type of floor covering in house , how many children, et al. I think it would be easier to adopt a child than to go through this process.



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Stephen Newell

01-04-2018 03:58:06




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Maybe the people you are talking to just don't have any right now. Then a lot of people are just terrible responding to letters. It might be they would contact you if one became available.



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gordosd

01-03-2018 20:16:21




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
I cant figure out what dog you want. A GSP is a German Shorthaired Pointer. There are nor long haired pointers. There Are WIREHAIRED Pointers (GWP). And then there are the GSD German Shepherds. What are you looking for. I was a pro trainer/breeder of bird dogs for 23 years. Easy to find "pet quality" puppies.



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tomturkey

01-03-2018 20:02:32




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
A women set up a "no kill" shelter, was taking in dogs and DONATIONS. Just a scam, ended up busting her for animal neglect and fraud I believe. So yes the scammers are out there, trying to get into your wallet thru your heart. gobble



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Donald Lehman

01-03-2018 19:02:19




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
There are an awful lot of shelters now being run by nutjobs. The shelters were my daughter lives all run security checks on you before you can buy a dog. I have heard of a lot of other silly crap going on where they tell people they can't "adopt a dog for one reason or another. Local dog pound................excuse me............animal "shelter" has gone "no kill" and is run by a bunch of goofballs. They have dogs that have been there for two years or more, can't get rid of them, and won't put them down, and then are constantly begging for donations for food and supplies. AND of course, they won't accept just any dog food donations, noooooooooooooooo, gotta be one of the premium expensive brands....................

I'll shut up now, before I really get going. (chuckle)

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Billy Shafer

01-03-2018 16:48:39




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
My sister was rejected because the place said. She was not qualified. She is a vet has a clinic in east Texas. A stray was brought in one day. She nursed it back to health and took it.



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Nancy Howell

01-03-2018 23:44:21




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Billy Shafer, 01-03-2018 16:48:39  
Where in E. Tx?



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Billy Shafer

01-04-2018 06:40:15




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Nancy Howell, 01-03-2018 23:44:21  
Over here in Palastine. I should have said western east Texas. Or what ever you call it.



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Mark - IN.

01-03-2018 16:33:29




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Decades ago when I lived in Illinois I bought a scrapper from the Chicago pound on the south side for a lady that I was dating at the time. She couldn't keep him so I ended up with him and she and I went our separate ways. I bought a home out in Romeoville and decided that he needed a partner so I went to a "no kill" suburban place in nearby Downers Grove, found a guy that I figured would work out and picked him. I filled out the paperwork and as I was, the lady interviewing me kept saying that they would prefer that I "crate trained" the dog and locked it inside of a crate when I wasn't home. She kept "suggesting" it and when I told her that I wouldn't lock it up in a crate when I wasn't home, that it would have the run of the house and fenced yard through the same doggy door that my other dog used. Then she told me that since I refused to "crate train" the dog that I couldn't have it. OK, I left. The next day some other lady, a supervisor called me to talk about what happened since the lady I talked to left her report. I told her that I chose a dog, about 80 pounds to go with my dog, about 80 pounds but the lady said that since I refused to crate train the dog instead of letting it have the run of its house and yard that I couldn't have it. She said that the ladt that told me that was wrong and I could have it. I told her that after thinking about it, I decided that they could keep the dog in its "no kill" shelter and that I would go get one from the Chicago pound where they kill animals, dogs that haven't been adopted within 10 days. That weekend I went to the Chicago pound and saved a female lab mix and a beagle from the glue pot. They were great dogs. I've never had a bad dog, all scrappers that no one else wanted. Right now a male lab mix, a female golden mix, and a neapolitan mastiff that was bred and beaten until she couldn't be bred anymore, was dumped, and now has a great home for the first time in her life.

Good luck.

Mark

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Cliff Nelson

01-03-2018 16:31:39




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
That sounds kind of hinky. My wife volunteers on rescue transports and can find just about any breed you want. I don't remember what part of WI you are in but with the transport network it really doesn't matter. We are southwest of Madison. If you're interested email me and I will send you her phone # so you can tell her what you are looking for. They do home checks or talk to your vet to determine you are a responsible pet owner and not some nut job. Dogs come from high kill shelters in OH and KY and are moved to WI and MN for adoption.

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coonie minnie

01-03-2018 16:23:39




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Here's the deal- if you told them you are a farm, they discriminate against you- no BS!

This summer, my cousin's sister in law was helping a German Shepard Rescue in WI. They had a dog that wanted to be outside, and they were trying to peddle it as a lap dog to some old guy. He had the dog a week, and it didn't work out. My cousin said, take the dog to my family's farm- ie, us. We filled out the form, etc. And waited. And were denied. Now we run a decent dairy, have had a lot of cows make over 200k milk lifetime, and had one that held the world record for 9 years, and still holds the US lifetime record- we know a bit about taking care of animals.

Despite all this, and a glowing recommendation from our vet, they didn't want to release the dog to a farm. "They get chained up. You leave it outside." I got kind of hot with the lady, and she relented- I think she was embarrassed, but was following orders.

They need a wakeup call. They ARE descriminating.

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wgm

01-03-2018 18:40:10




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to coonie minnie, 01-03-2018 16:23:39  
I my area some shelters are starting to ask what your politics are.



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Gambles

01-03-2018 16:11:40




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Some rescue shelters would rather put a dog down than to give him up for adoption. Want proof of this?
My co-worker's father-in-law applied to adopt a dog and they turned him down BECAUSE HE WAS 65 YEARS OLD!
They told him that he would probably die before the dog would die and then nobody would take care of the dog.



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glen sw wi

01-03-2018 16:05:35




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Why don't you check with the dog pounds in some of the bigger cities in Wisconsin. Most towns have some kind of animal control officer who could tell you where they put their pickups. Got one great dog from the Ashland pound. Had him for twelve years. It has gotten to the point where the pounds act like you were acquiring a human child.



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Old Popper

01-03-2018 15:40:14




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
3 1/2 years ago, I went on line looking for a yellow lab rescue dog. I looked at hundreds, decided on one and filled out all the forms, and was rejected also. My daughter found me a yellow female puppy at a breeder about an hour south of Kansas City. They were too high priced for me, but my daughter (the Veterinary) convinced them that I didn't want to raise any pups, just wanted a pet. They came down by 1/3, and I got a puppy. I don't know what kind of hoops you have to jump through to adopt, but I'm too old to start changing my ways now.

Good luck on finding a companion.

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Moresmoke

01-03-2018 15:18:27




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
The local dog rescue group is one of those outfits that is beyond reasonable. They will not let a dog go to a home outside the city. There has even been a case of dogs being picked up in the country, turned over to the rescue, and adopted out to a city home, even though they were chipped. The original owners had a heck of a time getting the dogs back.



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Stroby

01-03-2018 15:15:12




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Good grief, this place is getting more like facebook every day.



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alinark

01-03-2018 23:05:55




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Stroby, 01-03-2018 15:15:12  
like a bunch of old ladies on fecebook ...



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jddrawbar

01-03-2018 15:47:53




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Stroby, 01-03-2018 15:15:12  
Use your option to either read or ignore.....Pretty simple.



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VADAVE

01-03-2018 15:14:51




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Ask your local vet, maybe the one you took the dog to see if they will tell you why your not suitable. We were just visiting with one of the girls in the local vets office and were surprised when they asked do you let the dog/cat out as in outside. Our response was not here in the city in the country where the house is 800 feet from the road and there are 100 acres to play on. That made us not suitable! stupid! But that is the way these non-thinkers think.

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patsdeere

01-03-2018 15:09:05




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Some "agencies" are nothing more than some nut job that wants to "save" a breed of dog. I adopted one from a local shepard rescue group and I will never ever support them or recommend them. The attitude of the top cheese was so beyond arrogant I nearly walked away right then. One dog that I was looking at had "separation anxiety" and since I wasn't able to be home (no vacation/work/grocery shopping etc) 24/7, I wasn't "fit". Lets see, I have the dog when I am home and drop it off at my parents during the day (dad is retired). So I guess it will be by itself for eons....

On the other hand, had a lab group experience that was 2nd to none and got the sweetest lab from them. It was an owner surrender and she was great while I had her. Due to the fact they are truly trying to help find dogs home and aren't nearly as snotty, they get a nice donation each year and I will be going back to them for my next pooch.

Basically boils down to the people at the top that have the power. Isn't that like any "volunteer" group?

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bmack518n

01-03-2018 15:01:22




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
After our Border Collie, Kate, passed after 13 yrs the Wife and I tried to adopt a rescue B/C. Went through several interviews both in person and by telephone. We have a 3 acre property and another out of state property at 20 acres. We were told that we were not suitable adopters. We have two B/C's out of the same litter that are now 12 years old that we purchased from a private breeder. I will never again go through a breed specific agency but would be open to a rescue when the girls pass on.

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JDEM

01-03-2018 15:09:08




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to bmack518n, 01-03-2018 15:01:22  
We tried to adopt a Border Collie 12 years ago from Border Collie Rescue in central NY. They said we were not suited since there was a child in our house. So we then adopted one that showed up as the local shelter. She is 12 years old now and has been a wonderful dog and friend. So it worked out in the end. Just like our human child. We tried to adopt from the government and the state of NY made us take "training" even though we'd already raised four kids just fine. After two years of red-tape and pure nonsense? When they finally notified us that we could adopt - as foster parents first - my wife got pregnant and we had a child the old fashioned way. So we have our 12 year old dog and a 14 year old boy - no thanks to any of these "help" agencies.

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larry@stinescorner

01-03-2018 14:32:55




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
we might not be much help coming from NJ,but there is a place called St Huberts,,they seem to go the extra mile,,973 377 2295,,they may steer you in the right direction hopefully.We got our Maggie years ago from a lady that rescues Beagles,,,best of luck



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Steve@Advance

01-03-2018 14:06:07




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
I very seldom waste my time anymore filling out online forms or emailing companies.

Rarely do I get any reply, usually ignored, sometimes a generic form letter.

I suspect those are never opened, or the information is harvested for spam, or sold.

Last dog I got came from the Humane Society. They did a brief interview, filled out a form, took my money, handed me my dog.

That was 20something years ago. The questions were basic, just to find out if I had a fenced yard, was adopting with good intentions, and made sure I had no history of frequent failed adoptions. The fee was for prepaid, discounted spaying, which was a requirement to follow up on.

One of the best dogs I ever had!

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Ozlander

01-03-2018 14:05:22




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
I was going by the local vet, they were walking a black lab, just been fixed, be ready in a couple of days.

Went back, they said we also have a female, bought her out, I looked at her and took her home. Really a good dog that was picked up as a stray. Trained and house broke. Cost me 50 bucks.

So try a local vet they get strays all the time.

Papers don't make a good dog.



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Willow Lane

01-03-2018 13:57:25




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
We have had excellent results with local rescue societies. Many of them are tied in to Petfinder, you can do a search by breed, location, age, sex, etc. It's 8-9 years since we adopted our dogs and at the time the cost was in the $250-$300 range, which included vet check, first shots, spaying, chipping and transportation from the deep south to Maine.

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glennster

01-03-2018 13:55:53




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
lou, i agree sounds pretty fishy. maybe do a google search of the agency and see what comes up. if they are shady, someone will have posted something somewhere on the net.



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steve706

01-03-2018 13:49:07




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Around here the people who supposedly want to find good homes for animals are beyond ridiculous. They do what you are talking about and more...They do property inspections, credit checks, and even interview neighbours, itís utterly pathetic. Not sure if they are mentally unbalanced, or want to keep hold of the animals to make money off the upkeep donations they receive. Lot of dogs not getting new homes because most people canít be bothered with such a hassle.

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Mike M

01-03-2018 13:22:40




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Plenty of stray dogs everywhere looking for a good home. Should be easy to find one on craigslist that someone can't take care of anymore. People get a "cute" puppy and then it gets bigger and chews up everything and is not cute anymore so the get rid of them.



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Lou from Wis.

01-03-2018 13:58:04




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Mike M, 01-03-2018 13:22:40  
That's true.Except in our case,we are partial to Long hair G.S. Like most reply's,I'm beginning to think it truly is a scam,otherwise we would get a reply. I offered to put money in an escro account(bank transfer account)so as soon as we looked at the puppy,and while we were there, we would have our bank release the funds and transfer the money to their account if we were to take posession.No delay at all.When we replied to the ad,the woman thought escro was a scam.It sure as shootin not the case.After looking at the comments posted,she took money from potential customers and wouldn't answer the customers inquiry requesting their money back.Now that was a Scam.Hard to trust folks like that!!!! I guess we will keep looking.Best thing we can do at the moment.I'm sure one will turn up for us. Thanks to all who reply. Warmest regards to all who responded. Lou & Victor.

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Dean

01-03-2018 13:20:01




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 Re: O.T.Why NO response ? in reply to Lou from Wis., 01-03-2018 13:11:51  
Sounds like a scam.

Just need a few more bits of information, e.g., SSNs, CC #s, bank account numbers, etc.

Dean



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Ted in NE-OH

01-03-2018 13:14:19




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Could be a scam



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