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Re: Saveing the world.

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rrlund

01-03-2018 08:25:46




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I think there'll be a pandemic eventually that'll take a lot of lives don't you? Seems to happen every now and then when the population becomes too dense in any one place anyway. In the past it's been localized. The plague in Europe,small pox,the flu in 1918 that killed over 600,000 people. Trouble with localizing something now is that something like that can get on a plane and be around the world in a day. Nature has a way of taking care of itself eventually.

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wheres waldo

01-03-2018 09:32:30




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to rrlund, 01-03-2018 08:25:46  
Your Dad got the flu in 1918. I got the same flu in 1957. The similarity is that the folks that survived the 1918 flu did NOT get the 1957 pandemic. I have NEVER had a flu shot since then and I have NEVER gotten the flu. The genuine flu puts you in bed for a week with high temperatures and EVERY joint aches. I was nine years old when I got it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger sure fits. going on 70 years now

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9001ron

01-03-2018 09:03:51




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to rrlund, 01-03-2018 08:25:46  
Yes my dad got the 1918 flu [Spanish flu] when he was 2 months old . Here in Canada it came on the railway and spread out at each whistle stop . Killed a lot of people . Dad survived but had bad asthma the rest of his life . The Spanish flu burned itself out on its own just leaving those that fought it off -- as far as I know there weren't any vaccine's used on it . In Africa they are fighting (were)Ebola . It is diseases like this that are about the only thing limiting the population other than pure starvation . So now the population of Africa will explode . Nature will eventually supply a disease that cannot be medically counter measured and with a population essentially shoulder to shoulder and like you made the point of ----one of them could get on a plane and be any where in a matter of hours. In my opinion high population density's also increase the likely hood of war and strife .
The smart thing to do would be to start a population reduction program -- this is where I will leave it . I don't want to get called anti social -- but this is what is done with animals that populations exceed there resources or are in danger of diseases spreading like wild fire . In the end it protects the herd --- where a few can live in lou of the entire bunch dying

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jeffcat

01-03-2018 14:13:08




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to 9001ron, 01-03-2018 09:03:51  
I read stories about Australia and the rabbit plauge. Some people got hold of the virus that kills rabits and it was passed around between land owners like pound bags of refer. Throw some dead rabbit in a blender and mix up a batch of killer virus. Reading on wiki about it. Early 50s they had Myxoma virus and in the 90s 5hey used calicivorus. Always some idiot who introduced something that doesn't belong and has no natural predators. Yes we do need one heck of a dozzie of a plauge.

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rrlund

01-03-2018 09:29:01




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to 9001ron, 01-03-2018 09:03:51  
Uncle Raymond's (Dad's sister Anna's husband) dad died of it when Raymond was quite young.



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VADAVE

01-03-2018 08:49:13




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to rrlund, 01-03-2018 08:25:46  
I'm with you on that. Either a pandemic or one heck of a war (probably nuclear) to reset the population. Problem with china's approach was it was forced and not accepted nation wide. It worked for a while but the people didn't want it and will be right back where they were before long. Pandemic or war will reset the population but unless the people internalize the idea of controlling population growth it will only reset the population growth to a lower number. Nuclear war has other not so nice consequences and make part of the world uninhabitable for quite a while.

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rrlund

01-03-2018 09:25:50




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 Re: Saveing the world. in reply to VADAVE, 01-03-2018 08:49:13  
There was a marathon of medical shows on the other day that was interesting as well as a little scary. One of them was about a disease called Familial Fatal Insomnia. It's caused by a prion like CWD,mad cow,scrappies and things like that are. Not caused by a virus or bacteria,so once you have it,there's no cure. You're done for. So far,it's not that easily passed on,but something like a prion caused pandemic could wreak havoc and have long legs as far as carrying on for generations to come.

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