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Farmall49

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I have worked for my dad on the farm since I was 8 but we got in a fight I quit since then I have run around 150 feeder pigs a year I bought my grandpas farmall 560 and his new Holland 278 baler then his old disk grain drill and 1953 bobtale truck then I rented 40 acers of ground I have been debating weather to plant it to paster and graze 70 head of cattel an old guy offerd me a 1.50 a day per head or to plant it to hay I am still looking for ground I know I am going to buy120 acers of hay off the stump 3 crops i am selling to an old guy 140 dollars a ton what are your thougts on all of it how is the farmall 560 278 baler 1032 stack wagon i also have a farmall md don't have much cash so newer tractor is not an opstion
 

$!40 a ton is half price around here. I would not put any livestock on a first year seeding. It needs to put down roots and fill in bare areas for at least one season.
 
Depends where you are, what the land offers.

Round here corn and soybeans are king, cattle and hay are for the waste land you can't farm normal - too wet.

Couldn't pasture 70 head on 40 acres here.p, need over an acre a head.

Be lucky to get .75 a head here pasturing, sounds like you have a good situation there.

Paul
 
Neighbor put 9 cows on 57 acres, pretty much all in usable, productive, pasture last spring......I've been feeding hay rolls to them for him since mid October. Lots of luck on 70 on 40.
 
Your 'old' 560 and MD are quite adequet for what your immediate needs are.You never mentioned a swather/mower,rake or other equipment. Just dont drop the whole 120 acres at once.Cut it in 'blocks' that you can bale in a day.So if you can only bale 10 acres in a day,then only cut 10 acres at atime.I run a 1032 wagon. You can stack a lot of bales in a day.I have stacked as much as 1200 bales in one day(that was a LONG day LOL). In a year or two you can buy a 806......:)
 
Get your priorities in place first,Go back and apologize to your father,then proceed to farm on your own with your fathers blessing
 
I agree whole heartedly with James. Go apoligise. Mend fences.That should be the first priority.
 
my dad runs two cows per acer I am low at 70 he runs them 150 days a year fertilize 3 times through pivot
 
Yes Fix the Dad problem ,,. Animosity is a KILLER ,,.. don t feed it another Day ,,.. Everyone will be able fatm better ,, a good talking to is what everyone NEEDS ,,. It is Ok to disagree and express frustration at Disappointment ,,. The KEY is Learning from all this uglies , learning how to cope positively with difficult personalities ,is a developed virtue that will serve you well time and again ,,.it is the key to success in this life and is a favorable nod to getting into Heaven when this trial period on earth is thru ,..,.Yes some People You Cannot fix ,,.But at least you can go forward without excessive pain ..
 
Don't. An 7060 is a big tractor. too big for what you are doing Like a bull in a 'china shop'.Like my neighbor who owned a 1466 to pull a(small square) baler on his 30 acre hobby farm.. And having two tractors is a huge plus.I used to farm that much and more with a 706 and superM(still have those two).Used to do most of the baleing and all of the stacking with the SM(and wished for an H to rake with).Save your money and appologise to dad.
 
Ya,me too. I run 75 cows on 75 acres of pasture and put up 140 acres of hay. That's acres,not divided by 3 cuttings. At one cow calf pair per acre,any sign of dry weather and the pasture's gone in a hurry.
 
OK, so you irrigate. That makes a big difference. Where are you located? I farm in southeast Iowa. Mine is all non irrigated and this year we were VERY dry. I had to hay the cows some to make it through the summer. Fortunately we are having a great fall so I should have enough hay to make it till spring.
 
I got a call from him this morning begging to come back to work i told up the pay three dollars an hour he did i gues he did not want feed cattel today
 
(quoted from post at 09:45:48 12/05/17) I just trade my md and farmall 560 and 2000 dollars for an allis chalmers 7060

Maybe he's on here also.

Go say Hi Dad. See what happens.
 
i can agree ,, my dad was not perfect either,.. and i am alot like him ,,. he meant well , and he respected those that deserved and earned respect and he served honorably,. if i can do as good as that, my family and friends will be pleased
 
Just curious - why do you all assume its the son that needs to apologize to the father?

Sometimes keeping that fence up in a family operation is best thing that can happen.
 
Me and dad quit talking for a year. Details arn't important but it was both being hard headed. Wouldn't go to family events I knew he would be at, etc. One day he finally made the first effort to talk to me and ever since we have talked or texted something every day. Not something lovey dovey maybe a funny picture being sent around or a "Did you hear about...". I agree with the others on here. Make amends with him. You don't have to be the best of buds but you only have one. My best advice is to just go up and say "Hi Dad" and act like you've never had problems. I know it's hard but it takes two and likely Dad's willing to make amends aswell. No apologies just amends.
 
I have started responding to your post at least 3 times. I get "too deep," and then I delete what I typed in. I will try to be brief. My father and I couldn't get along for a long time, but I was close to my grandfather. We seemed to tolerate each other for too many years. Dad didn't get along with his father either, but was close to his grandfather. My oldest daughter and I struggled to have a relationship until about a year and a half ago. She could get along with my dad much better. I started making peace with my dad about 20 years ago, and things got progressively better about 15 years ago. I guess I could say my getting married, having children of my own, gaining some age and maturity, along with other life experiences helped me to be a better person. Dad started to mellow with the passing of time, not sweating trivial matters so much, and achieving some financial security after he had struggled for so long was good for him. Without realizing it, we managed to meet in the middle. Are we the "best of buds?" No. We get along quite well. We can have a few drinks together and talk about common interests, something we couldn't do for a long time as we had different interests we had passion about, but the farm is something he grew more passionate about in the last 20 years, and my interest in farming wasn't the a "do or die matter" for me. I still work off the farm and have too good of a career to give it up at this time. That off the farm work experience has made me a much better person than I think I would have been had I "gotten everything I wanted." I have better financial security, and I feel I am a much better and stronger manager. I no longer have the envy and jealousy of my peers, who were "handed the reins" of their father's farm, nor am I ashamed of myself or my "economic status" as I had struggled for those first years after finishing college. I feel very good about what I have accomplished and much of it completely on my own with nobody's help.
 
I did not start the fight he did I had unuff getting yelled at so I just quit I could tell by the look in his eye he was surprised I do all the work because he fired the other guy and I just can't keep up with all the maintance and work 700 head cattle we feed it snows every other day so there sick need bedded and we also run a thousand acers of groud we have a Hispanic guy who only comes in the summer to irrigate but can not run any equipment when you pull 16 shift 6 days a week so tired every day when you come home begging for sunday to come where all I have to work is 2 hours of feeding no apreation that your there and being yelled at every other because every thing is not done while he just sits on face book I guess a couple of days of doing my job he really under stood that we really do need a nother guy and I was right he is looking for another
 
he has never been the same since his divorce 7 years a go I was 20 I have been basically running the farm since he is hard to even talk to now he used two work a lot it was nice my grandpa still farmed then and we made a pretty good team miss those days
 

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