Starter bendix lodged under flywheel

The starter bendix broke apart on my 8n and
lodged under the flywheel, effectively
locking up the engine. I have a front loader
on the tractor.
Can I get to it by dropping the oil pan?
What would you guys recommend?
 
Oil pan won't do it. You "might" get to it through the starter hole
or by removing the steering gear box. But the hood and gas tank
would need to come off to get the steering gear box off.
 
I did that Bendix trick last winter. Tried rocking it in gear to no avail. Split the tractor, and installed a new clutch, etc. In about four hours with the help of one other old guy. Had never split one before. No big deal.
Good luck.
 
Re-read op. My loader had to come off. Again, no big deal. Got so I could take it of in 20 minutes by myself. A little longer to put it back on.
 
Cant get it through the starter hole.
Tried rotating reverse, dragging tractor, and pulling back and forth to dislodge.
No luck
Do you think i can get a torch through the steering to the bottom of the flywheel?
I dread the thought of pulling the loader and breaking the tractor
 
"Do you think i can get a torch through the steering to the bottom of the flywheel?"

I'd pull the loader and split it before I tried a torch.
They're really not that hard to take apart and put back together.
 
Thinking about it, how do you know it's a piece of the bendix
that's lodging it and preventing it from turning? I've found
pieces of the bendix in the bell housings of several and it never
bothered them. I could have just been lucky, but there they were.
 
Did you push it rearward in Road gear? If not trying that might dislodge it. High gear transmits mutch nore torque to the flywheel than lower gears. Jim
 
(quoted from post at 18:47:21 11/12/17) If I may ask.. is there a "best" way to remove the loader?

The best way is to lift it off with the loader on you bigger tractor. If you don't have another tractor with a loader, use your fork lift. If you don't have a forklift, use the gantry in your shop. If you don't have a gantry it pretty much brings you down to a good sized limb on a tree. If no tree limb, three poles lashed together above the tractor, and a chain fall, which is what everybody used to use for pulling motors. A few Ns had loaders which were much easier to remove, which basically needed support just at the rear axle attach point, then you back,(or drag) out. Splitting really isn't all that difficult. Just be sure to use the Hobo NC rear support jack, in order to stay safe.
 
My loader was a dearborn. Two bolts at the rear holding in pins, two bolts under the front below the stinger shaft.
I lashed a small cable puller "come-along" to a rafter in my shed to hold up the loader while I pulled the tractor out from under.
I broke another bendix gear without a problem before this one jammed. I had to split it and pull the flywheel to get it out. Replaced the clutch while in there.
Splitting wasn't hard but it was good to have a second person to help line things up putting it back together. I was nervous about splitting, but great info and pictures on this site made it easy.
 

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