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Just wondering. Has anyone ever heard of a case where a pan-style tractor seat broke off of the tractor during use? Just looking at these older tractors like the JD A's and B's and the IH M's and H's. If the pan broke loose or the seat support broke in-two, I don't see much hope for the driver in those situations. Especially if they don't have a firm grip on the steering wheel.
 
Never heard of that happening.But if the driver weighed 500lbs,and the seat assembly was rusted out,I could see that happening.
 
I've heard second-hand stories about the Farmall springs snapping and dumping a person off the back. I have no personal knowledge of it. But I got a new spring for my H just to be safe. EBay.
 
Farmall A tractors can allow that to happen if the seat spring breaks. Had it happen on ours. Spring must have just been fatigued, it broke, once it loses that support on the one side, it can allow the pan seat to bend or come unhooked on the other leaf, dumping you out of it.

Dad always told me of the story of when he was disking with his handstart John Deere B a long time ago, 70's maybe? Came up on the slope to the road, sort of like a ditch bank where he would turn around, and the bolt or something at the bottom of the channel frame JD used on their seats broke off, dumping him off it. He said luckily he had slowed down to turn around, and he fell on the hitch of the disk, but he was able to struggle around and get up from the hitch and jerk the clutch out. He said once he got it stopped it was halfway across the road headed for the big ditch that runs to the river behind the field. I can guess whether you had a plow, cultivators, or disk run over you, it probably wouldn't end up so well. Oh yeah, dad's a little guy, not heavy.
 
Before moldboard plows had individual trip bottoms, plows had break-away hitches. When the plow hit an hard obstruction, the whole plow detached from the tractor before the steel wheeled tractor could flip over backwards. There are stories of guys forgetting to use break-away clips on trip ropes and hard just tying the rope to the tractor seat. When the plow hitch gave way, the tractor jumped forward, the rope pulled the seat back and dumped the driver on the ground.
 

It happened on a JD G to a puller at the tractor pull at North Haverhill Fair in NH some five years ago. He was getting hooked to the sled and had just pulled the clutch. He fell backwards down behind his tractor but was not hurt.
 
Happened to my neighbor, with an older Allis - WD45 or something similar. He was backing up to a chopper box when it broke - he fell off and the tractor rolled over him. Took many months for him to heal. That tractor and another like it were soon traded.
 
M Moline U has a single bolt holding a cantilevered seat way out behind. At road speed (12mph) that bolt broke spilling me onto the drawbar with my shins, and the road with my feet. My grip on the steering wheel never failed, but it turned the tractor toward the fence off of the stone road. The right rear tire hit a 12" power pole stopping the tractor after one radical bounce. I was bruised and scuffed up some, but was able to drive it to the shop. Nasty. Jim
 
Oh my goodness. My father who would be 94 if he was still alive told of one of their neighbors that the seat failed and the disk went over him. His children found him. Every time we went fishing we drove by that the spot it happened. I wasn?t even alive when it and I still think about it when I drive by to this day. Will be going by there tomorrow as a matter of fact. I think it happened in the late 30s. I am so glad you survived your spill Jim. The world is a much better place with you in it. I have learned so much by keeping my mouth shut and just reading your replies to people. Thanks for sharing.
 
I weigh 200 and snapped the spring on my 350 while baling. Dropped the seat hard onto the battery box. After 50-60 years of use spring metal does fatigue. I believe those springs are rated for 175(?) and the "heavy duty" is rated 250 lbs.
 
Been reading posts here for years and years and this is the first time I've ever seen this topic ...... one of those things a person wouldn't think would ever happen. If you could imagine an accident in your wildest imagination, it can (and probably has) happen/ed I guess. Great post .....
 
In the 50s a neighbor was seeding grain when the seat broke- might have been a JD. He got run over by the drill, took a while to recover.
 
Several years ago and 80 year old neighbor was pulling an 8ft packer behind an allis wd. The seat broke off and he was run over by the packer.He was a tough old bird,back in the field a couple weeks later.
 
I have a Case LA that a neighbor years ago had the deal break off while plowing. He tripped it up a plow and hit a dead furrow while turning. He fell down into a ditch and the tractor and plow went up and over him and across the county road..... He didn't put a seat back on it.
 
There are hundreds of ways of getting hurt or killed and most of them are on the farm...and back in the old days it was very dangerous..
 
When I was a teenager, I had the seat break out of the top of the differential housing on an RC Case. We bolted a plate over the hole where the seat broke out, and bolted the seat back onto the plate.
 
Buddy told me once he unhooked a plow from his Super M but forgot the trip rope he had tied off to the seat spring. Yanked the spring right out when he took off. Said he had to run real fast to catch the M before it ran thru a fence in 4th.

Chris B.
 
Dad had that happen when he was mowing with horses. The seat spring broke on the mower and he went down on the ground behind the mower. The horses spooked and drug the mower across the field till they came up against a fence. If it happened to a mower seat I imagine it can happen to a tractor.
 
That has happened on several IHC, JD, and AC that I am personally aware of. Not an uncommon thing in the 1960's.
 
(quoted from post at 16:03:32 09/22/17) Several years ago and 80 year old neighbor was pulling an 8ft packer behind an allis wd. The seat broke off and he was run over by the packer.He was a tough old bird,back in the field a couple weeks later.

I have an aftermarket seat on one WD and an original on the other. The aftermarket has a core spring and I can't see how it would detatch. The original however, the dish pops and is rusty, and I can see how the seat pan could give way or the spring give out and dump you right off the back. Scary!
 
My neighbor's nice old JD A has a reinforcement piece added to the center bolt on his pan seat.
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I was pulling a disk with a Farmall M when the bolt that held the seat so it could swivel up and down broke. I was young and I held onto the steering wheel until I could get the clutch pushed to stop it. I was sure thankful the steering wheel held me as I sure would have gone under the disk. It can happen in a heart beat.
 
Had a spring break on a M while disking. The seat dropped down about 6 inches. I was young and must of had a good hold on the steering wheel. Can't believe I welded it and put it back on the tractor. Was still under the seating when dad sold the tractor.
 
It happened to my uncles hired man back in the 70's. He was pulling a manure spreader to the field with a Massey Harris tractor when something under him gave way.He was not hurt.
 
The seat on our MD rusted out enough that it broke out around the mounting base. Been many years ago don't remember the indecent history. I do remember welding the pan back onto the rest of the seat and is still there now. We also had the spring break on it just let the seat down a few inches. Welded it back together and is still there also yet. Used to use that tractor everyday to feed cows with a feed wagon and grind feed with it 2-3 times a week.
I was driving an H unloading it and the bolt head pulled off the bolt and let the seat drop some as it was in the bracket on the transmission top. The bolt held it from wanting to turn over sideways after the head came off.
 

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