O/T Pasture renter pulled out, not a word,,,,,,

Gary Mitchell

Well-known Member
Several years ago I worked for a young lady that I really like and respect. I knew they were having a little bit of a tough time because her brick-layer husband was getting almost no work and was about out of unemployment. I understood that he was handy as a laborer so I had him do some work around our place for cash $, decent $ I might add. I'm a retired union person and figure I'd be a hypocrite not to pay good. He built some fence, poured some concrete floors, did some electrical wiring, which he claimed to be qualified to do; some plumbing, and so on. Most of what he did was "adequate" at best and was probably indicative as to why he wasn't getting jobs. However, in considering why I used him in the first place I let most of it go, had him repair a couple of things, and re-did one or two myself.

His father-in-law gave him a couple of old cows and in the mean time he rented our 20 acres of pasture, of which about 3 acres are timber. He grew his herd and lately ran 7 cows and a few calves. Rent gradually increased to $750 per year. He was to mow, repair fence with me furnishing any supplies or equipment. He fertilized lightly once, on him at his say so. He used our well and electricity for heat in his water tanks and I let him know to keep his hoses in my heated shop. (There is a pond too that never goes dry.)

In winter he fed big round bales always in the same spot. There was a big oak tree that he tied them too and drove out from under them. It became a lob-lolly and killed the tree. He was told that in the future to scatter the bales. On the subject of trees, he seemed to feel entitled to cut his fire-wood at will and when I asked him to get rid of some locust he refused due to the thorns.

Our pasture rent was due at the end of August. A few days before that he took all his animals while we were away. I didn't think too much about that because he did that from time to time to "work" them. A days after that his feeders, water tanks, etc. were gone when we got back from being gone for the day. We heard nary a word out of him. My wife had texted him earlier a time or two about getting the pasture mowed which got to be later every year until last year when I had to do it. No answer.

All the time that he had the pasture he never called or came to the house when he was here. If he had something to say, after driving w/i 15 feet of our back door, he would send a text as he drove away.

I'm pretty sour on the guy right now. Should I be? What kind of agreements are common regarding property management and maintenance on small acreage pasture rental? Hunting, wood harvesting, mowing, bad habits,,,,,, etc. Thanks for letting me spew. gm
 
Probably time to just move on and find a new renter.

Things went south and I understand and would feel the same as you, but likely nothing really will come of it no matter what you do and just have to move on.

Paul
 
Going STRICTLY off of your words, I'd be pretty miffed also. But you also have to look at the general direction the world seems to be heading in, and that is this general sense of entitlement. Maybe your "help", in his eyes, was more of a control thing or he felt like he was being taken advantage of - possibly from comparing how much hard labor he did for your money as compared to how much hard labor he put out on a normal job......providing he could get one! :shock:

It's difficult (and often impossible) to know what's going on in someone else's head even if you were to ask them. Maybe you weren't involved enough throughout the process? ...In his eyes, I mean?

Just don't know!
 
If the guy is down on his luck, you did a good thing those years. I've been fortunate in my life through some good decisions and some good luck that I am living comfortable and able to give some to charity.
I have a neighbor that farms a small farm and finishes some cattle. Bad luck always seems to find him. Most is of his own doing but some is just plain bad luck. So I help him out (building fence, building and machinery repair, baling hay) never expecting and rarely getting anything in return. Wife says he is using me. I just look at it as doing some charity work that gets directly to the one in need. So, I don't know the specifics of your guy but maybe just look at it as some charity work you did and now it's over.
 
probably better off with him gone did you have anything in writing?
chalk this one up to school of hard knocks.
i would be po ed too.
 
Was the rent in advance or arrears? I.e. did he stiff you or just decide he didn't want to rent anymore? Was there any agreement (or even discussion) about how much notice he was to give when leaving? Was it reciprocal? Did you have the option of terminating his contract upon some notice? Say... 30 days? Was anything written or just based on a handshake, maybe not even that? In any case, I'd just move on and do what you want next with the property. If he doesn't owe you back rent, doesn't sound like you're out much.
 
Well you did not have to go to court to get him off your ground. LOL I would just move on and get a better renter.
 
I agree with the others, but will add this: Just to cover yourself for the future, it may be wise to send him a notice of termination. That way if he changes his mind, he will know not to put cows there next spring. Some states have a rule that an oral lease automatically renews for the next year by a certain date unless given written notice (where I am from it is Sept 1).
 
Talk to him in person and make sure you have everything settled now instead of next spring. It's probably more awkward for him than it is for you.
Other than that, I'd say good riddance.
 
End of August seems like an odd time to be paying the yearly rent on pasture land,I always tried to make it come due on Feb 1st well before grazing season started.
 

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