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IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question

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NH8260

09-11-2017 18:15:44




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Sorry for posting this on here but I couldn't get the truck forum to work. We just got done with cutting silage, had nearly 30 acres to cut before the rain from Irma got here. I had some trouble with my 74 IH 1600 dump truck, it has the 5+2 transmission in it, the gears are 1,2 & 4 on top and R,3 & 5 on the bottom. Twice while shifting from 2nd into 1st gear the tranny locked up, both times I was still in 2nd but the shifter would not move, it seemed like when I went to go down with the gear shift it went down at an angle. Both times it locked up while I was loaded and pulling, I took the 4 bolts out of the shifter cover, lifted it up, moved the right shift bar (rail) up slightly, put the cover and bolts back on and away I went. I would like to know what is making it do this, the rest of the day I would stop, make sure I was in neutral, then went over and up into first gear. I have replaced the first & reverse lever block and the ball and springs that go under the cover. Its not hard to get it unlocked but just aggravating and a little warm sometimes LOL Anyone know of what I might could check??

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4520bw

09-12-2017 03:39:07




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
I had a 1976 that did the same thing if I tried to shift it to fast or hard. I was told the end of the stick that rides in the blocks was wore. I sold it before I ever got it fixed. I carried a cordless impact and could have the thing back in neutral in a few minutes.



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NH8260

09-11-2017 22:30:56




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
I also meant to ask if this transmission has a filter on it?

What exactly is the shift tower and/or shift square?? Can these repairs be done with the tranny still in the truck?



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Mark Robke

09-12-2017 04:02:24




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 22:30:56  
In my post The shift lever housing is the 4 bolt housing you are removing that has the shift lever in it.Not rebuildeable.Mark



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Dune Country

09-11-2017 19:40:38




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
yes shift square, also check the roll pin at the bottom of the lever, at the ball



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Mark Robke

09-11-2017 19:08:13




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
The shift lever housing may be wore out-allowing the the lever to ride up higher than it is supposed to be,which allows the shift finger to ride over the top of the shift rails.This is especially likely if the lever housing is aluminum.You will have a hard time seeing the wear unless you have a new one to compare.I used to change a lot of them.You have to shift real careful if you don't want it to jam up.Mark

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jm.

09-11-2017 18:59:33




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
Well we had ih trucks all my growing up life. What my dad would always say was YOU CUT THE CORNER.... The way he explained it need to make the shift in a Half square fashion NOT a U pattern or pull back, move over ,,push up not trying to make it in a u shift. Hope this helps but it has be 40 years, only thing wors was we had one 1700 Loadstar CABOVER.. it shifted with linkage up on the steering column , when it got wore out it was a nightmare.

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VicS

09-11-2017 18:55:38




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 Re: IH 1600 Loadstar Tranny Question in reply to NH8260, 09-11-2017 18:15:44  
It maybe wore out. I have drove trucks like yours. Needed to shift it carefully making sure it was out of one gear before puttingn iit in another gear. The shift tower needs rebuilt.



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