Police decide to patrol Suicide I 70

Geo-TH,In

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According to article 6 people have been killed on suicide 70 YTD. Local news reports there will be
more police, local, city, and county along with state patrolling I 70.

Recently a semi rear ended a mini van and killed two kids. All I have to say, IT'S ABOUT TIME cops
stop the madness.
geo
suicide 70
 
Keep in mind that LEO can only do so much. Ultimately, it's up to each of us to be aware, and to be held accountable for our actions. Sadly, there's just too many people out there who simply don't care....at least until something bad happens to "them"!
 

Geo ,only 2 things are going to solve that problem 1) drivers wise up and pay attention to driving and 2)every other car on that road IS a police car.Neither is going to happen!
 
Knight George; Go spent more time in your gardens and stop worrying about the fate of I70 drivers, and spend more time enjoying your time with your wifey.
King Loren
 
(quoted from post at 18:22:53 07/21/17) According to article 6 people have been killed on suicide 70 YTD. Local news reports there will be
more police, local, city, and county along with state patrolling I 70.

Recently a semi rear ended a mini van and killed two kids. All I have to say, IT'S ABOUT TIME cops
stop the madness.
geo
suicide 70


Not to worry George. Within a couple days people will be complaining about the police presence and will start writing letters to the news about how it's all about generating ticket revenue for whatever municipality is involved. Happens every time there's a safety push.
 
What is the value of a life? Why did all police departments decide to get involved it they didn't
think it wouldn't help save a life?

BTW, 3 more semis were just involved in an accident on I 70. Thank God only semis were involved, no
cars, no serious injuries.

I guess YT people don't see the madness.
 
I ran I 70 from the time it was opened until I retired and I never had any trouble on it. But then I also didn't play with a cell phone while driving I 70 or any other road.
 
Sorry, I did not know: You have made posts referring to your boss, and I think you have posted pics of a woman driving your Kawy side by side. Sorry for the reference.
Loren
 
I have no stupid remarks or anything like that, but just have a question because I live nowhere near I70. What is the cause of all the deaths, speeding, poor road etc? Just curious.
 
Bret,
Most people on I 70 don't live in TH. Hope they do write many tickets. City needs the revenue.
I think it very sad when someone posts of a farmer getting killed by a tractor. We all send our
prayers. I find it sad that no one seems to have any sympathy for people on dying on the interstate
when a semi tractor is involved.

It's so bad, I call I 70 suicide 70, because it like you're committing suicide if you drive on it.
 
Most deaths occur each summer around construction areas, traffic back up, semis don't slow down and ram into cars.
 
Good for you both!!! You seam to be very happy together and that is what really counts. Enjoy your time together and don't worry about what others may think.
More power to you both,
Loren
 
I drive I70 from Topeka to the east coast regularly and even tho it is the busiest interstate I haven't noticed anything significantly worse with it than anywhere else. There are certainly worse interstates to drive on in my opinion. This type thing goes around and around, someone makes a fuss and brings attention to a stretch of road a d it gets in the news for a while. This will pass like it always does. Maybe George could come up with a good solution rather than just complaining. And remember George, any time there are split speeds like in your state there are more accidents, injuries, and fatalities. So if you want to slow things down you have to slow everyone or else you will just make things worse.
 
I would be curious whether I-70 has more accidents then the stretch of I-80/94 from about the IN 16 mile marker to the I-94 split in IL Has a lot of traffic and accidents per day on it.
As for I-70 I never thought it was that dangerous from Baltimore to Denver. After Denver it is a horse of a different color.
 
I see where you are coming from,it would be horrendous having the last thing you ever see in your rear view mirror is a transports grill. There are careless and complacent people in all professions, trucking is no different. Hope the police sort it out so you get some piece of mind.
 
The last few wrecks that were on the local news from I-70 were truck drivers that fell asleep or were under the influence of drugs.The one that just killed those kids ran into stopped traffic without even slowing down.There's a sharp curve at the I70 I75 interchange at dayton that the state spent millions on and trucks are still wrecking.
 
George,
Stay in bed. Better yet under the bed.
Never go outside. Eat only pablum.
Wash your hands several times per day.
Do Not let people into your house.
Do not turn on the TV or read the newspaper.
Tinfoil hat is optional.
 
Jon f mn
It seems we are always having construction in summer, slowing things down to one lane. Traffic backs up and people get killed.
 
People get upset when a YT member get killed by a tractor.
No one gets upset when a family is killed by a semi tractor, WHY???

I avoid 70. 6 people killed just this year. That's too many.

You can live under the bed, I refuse.

It's about time the cops got out from under the bed and are now pro active.

Time will tell if their efforts pay off.
 
6?? From the way you were going on, I would expect that number to be more like 60.

George, I'm a VERY sympathetic person. Absolutely HATE to hear about all the "bad" things out there, like people being hurt or killed. On the other hand, you have to realize that many people these days are inherently careless, and driving 70+MPH down an interstate while texting on the phone, putting on makeup, eating, and who knows what......bad things are gonna happen!

We're not being callous here, but life is often a cruel and dangerous place. The difference between the danger now and long ago is, long ago life was dangerous because of what was required to "remain" alive! Nowdays, it's dangerous from all the people too absorbed in their lives to have to try and keep it protected.

And just like when Larry and Loren referenced about you having a wife, they feel really bad about their slip, as you are their friend and they know you. Other folks here on YT....I for one don't know everyone yet, but still, I feel like part of the family here now. So there is that small sort of connection. Please don't think we simply do not care whether nameless, faceless people die or get injured. Problem is, there,s a whole world full of death out there. ...It's a part of life. Anyone trying to follow all of it will simply drive themselves insane over time.
 
We kill about 38,000 people on our roads and highways each year.
If you are afraid to drive on the Interstate System there are secondary roads you can take.
Though statistically the secondary roads are less safe.
You could also wear a motorcycle helmet in your car if it makes you feel safer.
 
Agreed.

I remember driving on I-70 after it opened in 1969 and not seeing a vehicle in either direction for nearly twenty miles.

Of course that was before the country had been destroyed.

Dean
 
George, there are a few things I will say about this...
First, does anybody really look into WHY trucks are not slowing down? Could it be that the construction zones are poorly marked or not marked clearly far enough in advance? Could it be that 4-wheelers are passing improperly and taking up the trucks' safe stopping distance?
Second, if the aforementioned conditions do indeed exist, how will more patrols solve the problem? If a construction zone is not well marked in advance, and appropriate precautions are not taken, then who is REALLY to blame?
Third, I can name quite a few roads that are just as bad, if not worse, than your I-70. I-40 through central North Carolina comes to mind. I-78 through southeastern PA is another. The entire length of I-95 is another. The main reason you seem to have your dander up about this one is that it is in your own back yard. And, you apparently don't like trucks.

So, my suggestion to you is that you go ahead and do something constructive. Start by checking out how well marked construction zones are marked off. Check out the behavior of the folks driving through them. Contact your department of transportation about fixing the problems instead of griping on a tractor forum to folks a thousand miles away.

And, I do pray for the eternal souls of the folks injured and killed on our highways.
 
Hey George, I70 in Western Pa is just as bad and it doesn't need construction. When those midwest drivers hit the hills of Pennsylvania all h*ll breaks out. I'm on your side this time Geo.
Jim B
 
In my experience, construction zones are very well marked.

The reason why trucks now run over the posted limit is because nearly all are independent contractors being paid by the mile. In the 50s and 60s, etc., this was not the case.

Dean
 
Problem is the police seem to break as many or more laws then they enforce. Here is an example I see all the time. Today while I was in town I watched a cop make a right turn with out so much as a turn signal. I watched him close because he was in the right hand lane which is a turn lane to the right but even then the law says he has to signal what he is going to do. I see law enforcement officers do that all the time. And yes I keep my eye out for them and what they do
 
The number just went up to 7 fatalities YTD last night. 3 semi and 3 cars this time, same location near construction site.
 
CAT Guy, Trucking Co. I drove for back in the 1980'S out of Davenport, Iowa sent half a dozen trucks east to Westville, Indiana 5 days a week for many years. That stretch of Interstate we referred to as the Bermuda triangle. Most days we'd hit the west end, where I-80 and 294 merged or split about 10 AM. Some days we got to Westville by 11, other days it might be 2 PM. Right and center lane bumper to bumper trucks, left lane Illinois law restricts to only cars, may be a few cars but most want to mix in with the trucks, and drive slow. Had a big traffic stoppage west bound one day. Took the Skyway. Cost a lot of money to drive over that big old Bridge, but saved me a couple hours that day. I've been kicked off expressways at 2 AM in Chicago due to a tiny traffic accidents, spent 3-4 hours trying to get from I-294 to I-65 one Saturday about 6 am in my pickup, construction company had 3 lanes squeezed down to ONE. Driving around Chicago and hauling freight was interesting and challenging. Glad I did it, glad I'M not doing it now. Some of the places we went frequently were the worst places around town to be. Our company opened a small terminal in Kansas City, MO. I started running west and south for a while, liked that better.
 
(quoted from post at 16:15:09 07/21/17) Most deaths occur each summer around construction areas, traffic back up, semis don't slow down and ram into cars.

Why do the semis not slow down?DRIVER INATTENTION! And semis aren't the only vehicles that fail to slow down in construction zones.
We had a very bad accident in central NY a week os so ago.Early AM,a semi milk hauler,empty,a deer darted into the road way,truck driver braked,swerved,jack knifed and blocked the entire road way.Two cars following,one car went under the trailer,killed 3.Second car hit either the tractor or trailer,killed 1.Why?Either they were following too close or were "asleep at the wheel"
Now our illustrious U.S.senator,Upchuck Schumer is calling for more stringent safety inspection/regulations for heavy trucks.Brilliant!
 
I avoid I70 from indy to the state line. The problem is a-holes that try to merge to one lane at the last minute and ones that cruise in the left lane backing up traffic.I use to take my grandma to Missouri to see her daughter so I would go south and hit 64 because all the time I spent setting in traffic on 70. I got stuck on 70 one time while they drove some big coal mining machine across it!
 
You are all upset about 6, but say nothing about the hundreds killed by other cars. If you were really concerned about lives you would go after the auto accidents since the numbers are so much higher. According to this link, 30% higher in your state. You should spend you time and effort trying to prevent all those, you would really do some good then.
Accident stats
 
(quoted from post at 20:11:25 07/21/17) Bret,
Most people on I 70 don't live in TH. Hope they do write many tickets. City needs the revenue.
I think it very sad when someone posts of a farmer getting killed by a tractor. We all send our
prayers. I find it sad that no one seems to have any sympathy for people on dying on the interstate
when a semi tractor is involved.

It's so bad, I call I 70 suicide 70, because it like you're committing suicide if you drive on it.


I guess you missed my point George. IME, whenever there is an increased patrol presence, the perpetually indignant will invariably be on the phone complaining to their politicians about what a waste of time it is, that the cops must have something better to do, how much it costs, the police state, etc, etc. Having picked up pieces (literally) of people from accidents for many years, I understand exactly what you're saying. I'm just giving you the other sides response. They're used to driving at for instance, 75-80mph to get to work every day. They don't see the problem, just the inconvenience of having to drive 60-65mph because the cops are trying to save lives.
 
(quoted from post at 00:52:55 07/22/17) Problem is the police seem to break as many or more laws then they enforce. Here is an example I see all the time. Today while I was in town I watched a cop make a right turn with out so much as a turn signal. I watched him close because he was in the right hand lane which is a turn lane to the right but even then the law says he has to signal what he is going to do. I see law enforcement officers do that all the time. And yes I keep my eye out for them and what they do

Old, I got a quite a rep as a hardnose among the baby Troopers because of stuff like that. Around here it's cell phones. If I had a dollar for every police officer I saw chatting away on his cell while driving I could surely buy the tedder I want. I've spoken to their higher ups, screamed at them while I was still working, etc. The signals, obeying the laws, etc., yeah. People DO notice. It takes a lot of time some people to "get it", that they're hurting themselves by doing what they would write ticket for. Drives me nuts. Everyone slips up once in a while, but when you just ignore the law, you lack the character required IMO.
 
Well IMHO it is the drivers of today and the fact that today we had people driving Class 8 trucks that should not be allowed to drive a pick up . I spent a lot of years driving from the time i first got behind the wheel of a big truck my life has revolved around a truck in one form or other there has been TRUCKS Straight trucks to semi's from little bitty loads to loads almost 400000 lbs . It all comes down to the driver , and yes cars /four wheelers including pickup live in there own tiny little world . And for those of you that have never sat at the controls of a BIG truck and took in the big picture of what goes on you will never under stand . Yes the new generation of Freight haulers plum SUCK and they really do not know how to drive and i don't care how many new reg.'s come out No E/LOGs will solve the problem . Four wheelers cutting off semi's brake checking them because they get made at them cutting on the inside and passing on the bearms darting around one only to dive inft. of him to take that exit that they almost missed . Causing him to have to stand on the brakes in turn causes the one setting on his bumper to slam on the brakes causing the one behind him to jack knife and slaming into that mini van with kids in it to flip and my personal favort and it happened everyday while i was hauling the big ugly oversized STUFF is having a freight hauler force his way around you then darn near take your ft. end off when he cuts back over in ft. of you and make you totally blind to what is coming up , like the car setting off the right side of the road close to the line or a big truck off the side . Here you are with more setting on the deck then they are grossen and you are NOT going to WHOA this load on a dime and give back nine cents change . Then oh yea in the hills yep your heavy your wide BUT you have double the horse power of them 62-65 MPH trucks and the speed limit is 70 , your job is to cover as much ground in the day light hours as possible you have the pony power to hold your speed on the hills and you pass a slower truck and run away from them on the mountain , they get ticked off and they start usen Georgia over drive on the down hills so they can pass ya and you get to smell there brakes on the down hill while you set back and let Mr. Jake carry ya down the hill at the speed you want and only to pass them again on the up grades , then ya get some that will swing out inft. of you to block ya from passing . It was and has been getting crazy out there since the big companys have come on the seen and the O/O have declined on population due to more regs more taxes and Cheap freight . Today they will put anybody in a big truck and to accommodate this they put auto shifts and automatic's in them so they can put any warm body in a big truck even if they can not drive . what they don't understand is driving a big truck is like flying a plane you have to be all eyes and ears at all times and ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LAND WITH WHEELS DOWN.'i AM retired OFF THE ROAD AND SEMI RETIRED FROM FIXEN TRACTORS What i see each day on some of the face book pages dealing with trucks and truckers today out on the big roads is why i prefer the old GOAT paths , yep may take longer but a lot less traffic , yea see more and yep sometimes i get stuck behind some old farmer driving down the road SO WHAT time i have and i am still moving not setting on and interstate due to dumb drivers . Now as for the cell phone thing you will never see me texting since my phone is just that a PHONE , ya want to TALK to me then talk, i can still drive talking and pay attention to my driving and never take my eyes off the road or check my mirrors . Here at the house i set up on a hill looking down on the street and ya can see in the cars and trucks as they pass the house while setting on the ft. porch , One can not believe what one see's and what i see each and everyday here in PODOCK Jct. is the people that are texting while driving , reading the paper , looking in brief cases for paper work drinking a beer that they just got from the little store down the street , steering with there knees and talking with both hands( must be Italians ) , saw one guy taking off a tee shirt while steering with his knees . People digging in the back seat for what ever and not even looking ahead but in the back seat.
 
Generally there are two sides to every story. I will be the first to agree that their are problems in the trucking industry. PLEASE don't ask the know it all politicians to fix it. Every time they fix it, they just make it worse. Also: every time a truck is involved in an accident: many declare the truck at fault without knowing the facts. Police report statistics show that auto drivers actually caused the accident in like 70% of the time. Not defending truck driver. Don't know all the circumstances
 
So far all 7 fatalities involved semis. Last night after posting article we had the 7th fatality. 3 semi's were involved in accident, then 3 cars piled up into the semis. This was the first time the fatality was the truck driver. 6 other times the fatalities were caused by semis driving into the back of cars.

So when you run into the back of a person it means you didn't have your vehicle under control.
 
This spring I had a friend cal land say hey we have a road kill deer do you want it. I said sure why not so they loaded it up and brought it to me. Said a state trooper had told them all the pager work was done and no worries about it. I called Conservation and they told me the State trooper had done t all wrong so the would send me the paper work to make it legal. I then called the troopers head quarters and told them flat out you best teach your people what is and what is not legal before you get people in trouble for breaking the laws because you cannot get it right. Sad how many who are suppose to enforce the law have no clue about the law
 
Unless the other car cut in front into your safe zone, a very common problem. You seem very poorly informed as to the actual causes of these wrecks and unwilling to find out. Seems like you are just going on the emotional response. You also don't seem interested in finding a real solution, but only in laying blame to the big bad trucks regardless of the cost or true responsibility.
 
I'm just reporting what the news reports. One semi driver killed last time. 6 auto drivers killed from semi's ramming in the back of cars/mini vans in previous times. All accidents occurred miles from actual construction site merge lanes. Traffic was backed up because at construction site down to 1 one lane.

You can come up with excuses, but when you ram into the back of someone for any reason, Good chance you are at fault. You are suppose to have control of vehicle at all times.

Perhaps someday all vehicles will have dash cams to prove who is wrong. I installed a dash cam on my car just for that purpose. Stupid people driving way too fast and driving like IDIOTS.
 
We don't travel much, and I can't tell you how many times I've "personally" seen some idiot in a small car or pickup zip around a long, slowing line of traffic and then try to cut ahead somewhere farther up in the pack. It happens literally all - the - time!

There are semi's in these long lines, and as it takes a loaded semi MUCH longer to stop than a small vehicle, they are supposed to keep a clear distance between them and the vehicle in front. Then some yahoo idiot zips in front of then and the semi cannot stop in time. Sorry, I don't see where that's the semi driver's fault.
 
I have found that the markings for construction zones varies from state to state. I have also found that not all are what I would call "well marked."
As to how truckers are paid, pay has been by the mile for over the road drivers for almost as long as there have been trucks. Extra pat for extra work. Like loading/unloading pays the driver more. Drop and hook even gets the driver a few bucks beyond straight mileage pay. Local drivers generally get paid by the hour or by the trip.
So, overall, pay by the mile is not a contributing factor as I see it.
BTW, I drove over the road for about 12 years, and ran local/regional for another 8 years before I retired from it. So, I do speak from experience.
 

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