Older 2wd Loader Tractor w-Shuttle

Bill VA

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Any recommendations for a loader tractor for moving hay around? Older older model, 2wd, durable clutch and a shift pattern that is loader friendly to operate.
 
How old are you calling old ? 20 years ? 30 years ? 40 years ? Massey had a industrial model with a shuttle in the 50 hp range back in the late sixties -early 70's . You could get the IH 84 series tractors in the early 80's with a shuttle shift .Just how old is old ?
 
I have an International Industrial 464 with shuttle shift it works real good and is handy,on the other hand I have an Allis Chalmers I600 shuttle and it has a long stick on the left side
for the shuttle not very handy.If I were you I'd be looking at older industrial tractors most have a shuttle of some type and many times if they don't have PTO or 3pt they go cheap.
My Oliver 1365 with a loader works good for a straight shift loader tractor,transmission is smooth shifting and goes into gear easy.
 
Ford 445 or 545 - mid 70s to early 90s about.
Those could be had with shuttle, or 6/8 speeds.
Older was 4500 - 65-75
All were pretty stout machines.
Ford also made what they called a 6x4 manual reversing trans. 2 ranges, 3 f 2 r each range.
Bullet proof.
I saw a 545 on CL yesterday that has shuttle.
Rough and probably something wrong with it.
Cheap tho.
Not my ad, etc.
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This is what I use to load bales, loader and front axle made to take abuse, fwd/rev power shuttle with torque convertor and one of the handiest control setup ever made, I load out two semis and a 5-wheel trailer(50,000 lbs) in less than 45 min, hard to see in the pic but I have a bolt in bucket spear, thought I had picks of the loads tying down but I must have forgot to take any
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Here is an old article about people getting killed moving round bales of hay.

My recommendations is read the old article. Get a tractor with a cage and wide wheel base. Article says about half the fatalities, tractors roll over moving hay. Other half hay rolls on people.

ROP only works with a seat belt. Older tractors don't have ROP and seat belts.
Fatalities Associated With Large Round Hay Bales Minnesota,
 
Is a skid steer out of the question? Hauls easily to a hay field. It is more maneuverable and quicker than a tractor. There are several useful attachments for them so they can do a lot more than move hay.
 
Yes, but a tractor can haul itself to a field, and pull a wagon that you can load with hay. A skidsteer requires an extra trip to retrieve it when you're done because you're presumably using the same trailer to haul the hay.

As far as faster? If you're chasing bales around the field you can do 10-12MPH with a tractor if the going is smooth. An older skidsteer will be lucky to do 4MPH downhill with a tailwind.
 
Deere 2510-4020 Syncro-Range was easy to shift and syncronized between forward and reverse gears. The 30 series added the Perma-Clutch oil clutch.

IH 74 series utility tractors were syncronized?

Deere utility tractors were not syncronized but were easy to shift and reverse was faster than forward in each gear. A power reverser was available but more trouble prone.

Case 70 series power shift was power shift between 3-2-1-R in four ranges. That might be handy under a loader but for me the clutch could be "jumpy" when inching.

By the 1970's most utility tractors were designed for loader work.
 
You've driven different Deere utility tractors than I have. I've run 2020, 2640, etc. Every change of direction required shifting two levers. If you used low 3rd forward you shift into 3rd reverse and crawl, had to shift range also. THE 5000 Ford I drove of the neighbor's was the exact same way. Frustrating and not user friendly at all.

BTO I worked for had a Case 420 Construction King loader tractor. Had a reverser, but no torque converter. Built like a Brick! Township had a Case 530 Construction King TLB, torque converter drive, was amazing how fast I could put 20,000# of sand or chips in the spreader truck. Brother-in-law had a 2404 IH loader tractor. Every bit as stout as the Case 420 plus had PTO. It had a reverser, 20% faster reverse than forward. If you want a loader tractor then buy a Real Loader Tractor, as new as you want to afford. A loader on a farm tractor is not even close to the same thing unless you get a 150+ hp farm tractor to put a loader on.
 
Get a JD 310, 410 or 510 series backhoe and remove the hoe. The front end of the tractor and the loader are built to handle earth and are very tough. The shuttle shift makes loader work very simple.
 
Anybody can run a skid steer but it seems only a few can operate one. If you're tearing up ground you're not running a skid properly. If you know what you're doing a skid will beat a tractor hands down and not leave a mark.
 
Ran them since 1969 and sold dozens of them, I agree with you about few are operators, as for a skid being better at loading bales on rough uneven ground sorry I disagree with you on that and visibility loading two high on a semi is not good at all I have used one in a hay yard and that worked ok as them being compact in that app was a plus, but I prefer to use my 580, faster and smoother to use and I can handle and load/unload as faster or faster than a skid, the guy at the stack yard was always behind me and I was waiting for trucks,, now using a farm tractor with no shuttle I agree the skid is faster there,
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(quoted from post at 08:16:57 07/19/17) You've driven different Deere utility tractors than I have. I've run 2020, 2640, etc. Every change of direction required shifting two levers. If you used low 3rd forward you shift into 3rd reverse and crawl, had to shift range also. T

Dr evil
I think your statement is INCORRECT that a JD utility tractor crawls when shifted from forward 3L to reverse 3L. I don't have a MPH chart for a utility tractor built between '65-'92 but I'll see if I can locate one.
 

Price range?

I'd go 84/85 series IH, left hand inline F-R shift no matter the trans, 484/485 etc handle 4x4 bales fine, larger bales be into a 585-685 etc
 
Some tree trimmers are using skidders, then people call me to fix the mess they leave in the yard.

I won't hire a tree trimmer that uses a skidder.
 
Using 6th (2-II), 2nd (2-I) and 2nd reverse (2-R) does not work for you when moving bales?
 

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