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David G

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I hate to see a tractor operator get killed anytime, so condolences to his family.

It appears that the Batchelor (Chris Seules) ran into the back of a 2640 last night and killed the driver, he left the scene, and assumed drunk.

It happened just a few miles up the road from where I was raised.
 
The attitudes towards drinking and the way things are in the courts nowadays, the drunk driver will probably get a 30-day sentence -- suspended!

It took 200 hundred years to realize that tobacco is harmful to your health. Wonder how many years it will take to realize that alcohol is also bad for your health.
 
He is repeat offender, got off last time with probation, he is celebrity, but killed someone this time.
 
People of all types drink too much but the people on "reality" shows start out weird. There was a casting call in Austin last week and some of the folks in line were on the news. Maybe normal for downtown Austin but ..... And the producer said they were looking for "special" people. Ought to be a doozie.
 
David,

A few years ago, a drunk lady ran over a 11 year old boy, killed him and left the scene.

Cops had an idea what kind of car ran the boy over from the parts of car left behind.

Well they went to the lady's house and her dad had covered up the accident by putting deer blood on the car and claimed his daughter hit a deer.

Years later the truth came out. A cop told me, She would have gotten in more trouble, possible jail time for kill someone while drunk. So all she got charged with was leaving the scene of an accident. It's like she got a slap on the hands.

Isn't it sad to think the best thing for a drunk to do is leave the scene of an accident? I wonder how many drunks know that?

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David G,

Perhaps substitute "texting". It appears to be more deadly, yet unlikely, to have the same penalty. Irritates me greatly. If you kill, what difference does it make how you've done it?

If texting was treated as deadly as it was, drunk drivers would fall behind texters in enforcement. Make the punishment as severe, if not more so, than driving drunk.

D.
 
Prohibition was tried back in the 1920s. It didn't work then, and it won't work now. Same goes for tobacco. Sad but true. If folks want to drink, smoke, or drug themselves to death, they will find a way to do it - legal or not.
 
Growing up in a non-drinking home, I've been opposed to drunkenness all my life. However, it's legal, so not a whole lot I can do about it. But it's always gotten under my skin when folks say "[i:ff6f2d7dd3]Oh, they didn't know what they were doing - it was the alcohol (or drugs) doing it[/i:ff6f2d7dd3]". The ONLY time that should be relevant is if it was forced into their system without their consent!

Everyone who drinks and drives should be held accountable for their actions. Yet amazingly, take two identical crimes, add drunkenness to one, and suddenly the penalty is less. It don't add up.
 
Think Ted "the Chappaquiddick Kid" Kennedy. Disappear from the scene until the booze wears off and you won't face alcohol-related charges.
 
Chris Souls is the name, happened about 20 mi from me. The Soul farming operation and the accident scene all not too far apart. I used to work in a factory with the guy that was killed, Kenny Mosher. He drove fork lift and so did I at the time. We used to talk farming at the far end of the warehouse. Details are not all out yet what type of tractor Kenny was driving, he took over from his Dad and had some pretty nice Deere machinery. WOW----Tee
 
T, Where you from?

I was born in Oelwein and grew up in Independence?

My folks lived off county home road.
 
I read more details in news, looks like he ran home, it took hours, would not come out of his house without search warrant.

What a coward.
 
From Arlington I see, that is close to me. I didn't know the Chris feller or that he was a bachelor on the tube since I don't watch the darn thing, but the name Kenny Mosher founds familiar for some reason.
 
Channel 7 (Waterloo) said it was a 2640. No one saying anything about lighting at 8:30 pm, but how could a truck continue running after hitting a tractor? He alledgedly drove it home. Bad deal. Leo
 
cant understand how that was kept so quiet,if that was my little girl he left in that car,I would get to him somehow,,he would never forget me for sure,or I would die trying,
 
George, I knew a drunk who got away with it by not leaving!

This man, now deceased, had an extreme case of alcoholism, high tolerance for alcohol. One of those people that did handle his drinking well, as far as maintaining some level of acceptable behavior, but the amount he drank was life threatening!

One night he had really outdone himself, gone beyond his usual level, put his old ElCamino in the ditch on the way home.

This is how he told his story:

As drunk as he was, he was still able to think. He got out of the truck, sat down on the side of the road and waited. Sure enough the cops came, or someone called them.

They asked if he had been drinking...

"Oh yes, a LOT! But I knew I didn't need to be driving, so I asked this couple from the bar to help me get home. He was going to drive my truck and his wife was following in their car. But turns out he was just as drunk 'cause he drove my truck in the ditch. His wife stopped, picked him up and left me here with a wrecked truck!"

He must have been pretty convincing, the cop couldn't prove he was driving, so all he got was a PI instead of DUI.

BTW, they took a breathalizer test, decided something was wrong with the machine because it read so high.

Took him to the hospital to draw blood, the alcohol level was so high they wouldn't take him to jail, afraid he would go into DT's.

He spent the night in the hospital, they let him go that morning.
 
Don't know, It is 8:15 right now and I look out the window and it is almost pitch black---Tee
 
dennis min,

I agree with you 100% It was proven many years ago TALKING on a phone while driving impaired a person as much as being over the legal alcohol limit. TEXTING, quite obviously, is even more impairing to a driver.....When will the penalties of texting equal that of drinking and driving?? What is the difference if you are equally impaired? NONE Sorry to dwell somewhat off topic, but it irritates me to no end seeing all of these fools looking down at their phones while driving. I'll bet it is real important conversation that endangers our families..
 
Actually seems to be the opposite. If a person ran into the back of tractor that was sober then it would be written off as an accident (even if they were texting). Do with a few beers in your system and its manslaughter. That's why Ted Kennedy took several hours before reporting his short boat trip on Poucha Pond, sober it was an accident, drunk it was murder.
 
There was one here right up the road when I was in my early teens that was never solved. The cops came and questioned Dad a few days later. My mother's brother was moving out of state and had a car here in the yard for sale. He sold it about the time of the accident and the cop wanted to know why. It was the wrong color anyway,red,while the accident vehicle was blue.

Dad was pretty sure he figured out who did it a year or two later. I guy two miles straight south of here had an old blue Dodge pickup. He was known to drink a lot. Dad caught a glimpse of that old truck sitting down in the bottom of the old bank barn one time,realized he had quit driving it about the time of the accident and that it was the right color. That truck was still in there when the barn eventually fell down.
 
(quoted from post at 14:50:46 04/25/17) The attitudes towards drinking and the way things are in the courts nowadays, the drunk driver will probably get a 30-day sentence -- suspended!

It took 200 hundred years to realize that tobacco is harmful to your health. Wonder how many years it will take to realize that alcohol is also bad for your health.

Actually some drinking, say a beer a day, 1 glass of wine with a meal, is good for you. You can look it up. Drinking in excess is bad for you just like EATING in excess is.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 16:05:32 04/25/17) Prohibition was tried back in the 1920s. It didn't work then, and it won't work now. Same goes for tobacco. Sad but true. If folks want to drink, smoke, or drug themselves to death, they will find a way to do it - legal or not.

Exactly! In fact Prohibition not only failed it took minor criminal gangs and with the cash influx turned it into a national crime organization.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 16:10:56 04/25/17) Growing up in a non-drinking home, I've been opposed to drunkenness all my life. However, it's legal, so not a whole lot I can do about it. But it's always gotten under my skin when folks say "[i:ab09377923]Oh, they didn't know what they were doing - it was the alcohol (or drugs) doing it[/i:ab09377923]". The ONLY time that should be relevant is if it was forced into their system without their consent!

Everyone who drinks and drives should be held accountable for their actions. Yet amazingly, take two identical crimes, add drunkenness to one, and suddenly the penalty is less. It don't add up.

I quite agree. Being under the influence of anything is not excuse!

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 19:46:59 04/25/17) dennis min,

I agree with you 100% It was proven many years ago TALKING on a phone while driving impaired a person as much as being over the legal alcohol limit. TEXTING, quite obviously, is even more impairing to a driver.....When will the penalties of texting equal that of drinking and driving?? What is the difference if you are equally impaired? NONE Sorry to dwell somewhat off topic, but it irritates me to no end seeing all of these fools looking down at their phones while driving. I'll bet it is real important conversation that endangers our families..

Yep - I don't quite know WHY but talking on a cell phone is 'way different than talking on a CB. I drove truck for 30+ years and, basically, never shut up! In the middle of the worst snowstorms and slick roads I'd be talking! NEVER had a problem but when I first got a cell phone I tried talking and driving and right quick decided that if I HAD to talk on it I'd better be stopped on the shoulder. There must be some kind of radiation from those things that 'unhooks' your brain from the task at hand(driving)! I can't do it but I can talk on the CB and drive, so there must be some truth to the view that the cells emit radio waves that mess with your mind's ability to 'multi-task'! :shock: Like Eastwood said: 'A man's got to know his limitations!'
 
State cop friend of mine told me the best way to get out of drunk driving is when you hear a siren is tokeep a spare bottle of booze and get it and soon as cop sees you down as much of it as you can. Hoss
 

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