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I'm not trying to start a political thing here, but this is a serious loss of privacy.

Just in case you missed this with all the news this week. AVG Anti-Virus and other companies have been doing this for a while, but now any ISP can do it.
Link to one story.
 
That doesn't really change anything. The FCC regulations never went into effect. What's happening here is that Congress is making it clear that the Legislative Branch makes laws, not the Executive Branch.
 
What ever we do or say on our computers has been shared through out the system. I visit my Sons Face book page ( I don't have a face book account)I was looking for some parts on my web,, and they latter showed up on his face book page,,a while back I was looking at Ford pickups on my web,,next thing I new all kinds of Ford pick ups were showing up on his Face book page,,filtered over just because it was in my favorites..
 

This is a little different and is very serious. It's the equivalent of someone being able to buy information about everyone you call, every store you go to, etc.

What you described is done via ad cookies, etc. and can be done on a limited basis if you allow tracking cookies. I don't Facebook so I can't comment on that. But I do believe that Facebook makes a few pennies from each ad it sells like this.
 
I went to a large department store and bought a bedspread my wife liked. Next thing it was a side ad on my email. Happens all the time. I make a game out of trying to figure out the path. Beats fighting it.
 
My daughter offered to get me signed up to facebook. I told her if she did, don't bother phoning me again ! It is TOTAL BS and one of the largest time wasters ever invented. Amazing that us humans (in NA) have survived for so long. I don't think the average person in 'lesser' regions (no insult meant) give a rats behind about smart phones, facebook and all that crap. Wish I'd got into the biz of wasting peoples time, selling expensive toys (new one next week) and disrupting the (formerly) normal way of life - NOT. A pox on all that adhere to the idea that we MUST be in contact with everyone all the time. Cell phones are handy tools, and especially in time of emergency, so why must we take a picture every 10 minutes to share with the world ? Safety is one thing, the rest is wanton materialism, and as useful as a sack of anvils..
 
When the information being given/sold/traded is done with anonymity, that's fine. But if/when they start putting names/addresses or other HIGHLY personal information, that's going overboard.

I did a little research on this and still have not been able to confirm just exactly what it is that's being done. There's still so very much being hashed out behind closed doors; most of which we'll probably never know about.
 
OK, now, before you get your nnalert in a bunch, have you forgotten what it takes to get a law passed?
First, it is introduced into either the House of Representatives or the Senate. Following discussion, debate, and modification, it gets sent to the other legislative house. That is, if it started in the House, it then goes to the Senate for discussion, debate, and potentially modification. Once the BILL (not LAW) has passed BOTH houses of Congress, it goes to the President to be dealt with in the oval office.
There, the president can do one of several things. He can veto it, sign 9it into law, or do what is called a "pocket veto" allowing it to "time out" and die.

So many times, I see folks getting all upset over a BILL that has been introduced into congress. There is a long road from a proposal (BILL) to a LAW.
 
I'd be more concerned about the apps on a smart phone.
I have a friend who is a nurse. She had a conversation over
her phone with another nurse discussing treatment of a patient.
Somewhere on her phone she had allowed an app access to her microphone.
It recorded every bit of that conversation and her home PC was
then flooded with pornography ads based on a medical conversation.
It was a bit unsettling for her 15 year old daughter.
 
As I keep saying, their are no ethics in the electronic industry. Everyone thinks that if you can do it electronically, it is okay to do.
 
Jimg, your post brought this to mind right off! Helps explain the process, even if it is for kids.

Do you guys think the crap on your computer was safe before this was released? Don't do anything on there you don't want the world to know about has always been how I felt.
Im just a bill
 
PCmatic says they stop that . that's what I run . maybe they do maybe not but since I installed it they say it has blocked 141,744 requests . it uses the U-block source
 
This is downright funny!

I go to TSC, Northern Tool, Fleet Farm ECT. they ask for a phone number or a zip code and WE THINK NOTHING OF PROVIDING IT! Then we wonder about stopping someone from looking at your browsing history? You give your number to a store and they can call you with telemarking ads legally, so can any other business that they are associated with. Give em your zip and you and all your neighbors get sales fliers in the mail. As far as the internet is concerned the news media has been watching your browsing for years!

Ever hear of cost and effect? Go ahead, raise hob about this. A lot of your internet is paid for by these companies who paid to have their ads appear in sidebars. Want to pay more? Keep going. Stop the ads and you, me and everyone else is going to pay more for internet access. I don't really care. I look at JD on the net and then when I pull the news up a JD ad is in the sidebar. So what? I read the news, not the ads.

Rick
 
I should ad, the courts have ruled that the internet is a public domain......so don't do anything online that that you don't want everyone to know!

Rick
 
Kinda depends where this goes, oiltanker. I understand targeted advertising, and it pays for a lot of the 'free' stuff we get on the Internet.

You can get a person's phone number and call them. That is fine.

You can get a person's phone number and call them 28 times in a day and that is considered stalking or harassment.

Somewhere a line gets crossed.

There are very few rules any more covering these new rechologies.

The big companies create the rules, software licenses that basically say you bought nothing of value but if the Office software, or the car, or the
tracker or combine happen to work good for you, we aren't responsible if they don't....

Cookies and other tracking software placed on my computer isn't regulated very well, it is all one sided. I don't mind the targets ads, but they
are getting deeper and more invasive every software update. At what point is it harassment, or invading my privacy?

Just like the phone call.

There are lines, and this computer software is so under cover, do we know even if the lines are being crossed?

When John Deere decides to no longer support the software on your tractor, that tractor is lump of iron, it won't work if something breaks. End
of story. (Cars are the same way, but no one keeps cars past a lease anymore so no one cares.....)

Is that really in our best intrest, is that really what we want our consumer laws to,protect? Computer Internet software is so much more
intertwined we don't even understand what they are doing on 'our' computer that I guess we don't really own.

What's the future?

Paul
 

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