How to handle rear tractor tires with fluid?

tomstractorsandtoys

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I need to come up with an inexpensive way to transfer fluid out and back into tires. A few weeks ago the 4230 had a flat and the tire shop came out and pumped it out then we fixed the cleaned up the rim and remounted it. Now I will have to pay for a second service call to put the fluid back in. I also had them here recently to pump fluid out of a customers tractor and I just bought a set of used tires to put on a 2440 so I will need to deal with fluid again. Any ideas how to pump it out, store it and put back in? Thanks Tom
 
You could do it yourself. There is an inexpensive valve you can let the air out as you fill the tires. The solution can be mixed in a closed barrel and pumped into the tire with compressed air. I bought the valve to do mine but I was afraid I would ruin the old rims with the calcium carbonate so I never did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg6-6qRK2o0
 
(quoted from post at 19:05:15 02/17/17) I need to come up with an inexpensive way to transfer fluid out and back into tires. A few weeks ago the 4230 had a flat and the tire shop came out and pumped it out then we fixed the cleaned up the rim and remounted it. Now I will have to pay for a second service call to put the fluid back in. I also had them here recently to pump fluid out of a customers tractor and I just bought a set of used tires to put on a 2440 so I will need to deal with fluid again. Any ideas how to pump it out, store it and put back in? Thanks Tom

To drain I use the skidsteer and forks, when it slows down I put more air in...if I want to re-use the fluid I aim it at an old bathtub, then bucket it into plastic barrels. I have never put it back in, but they sell water valve kits at the farm and fleet stores, and harbor freight has those cheap drill pumps that look like they would work ok.

 
I did mine myself--I bought the tire filling valve from TSC and used a sump pump in a barrel with a hose to the valve
 
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I got a little lucky I was able to pick up a vacuum pump at an auction sale for $30.00 and got the hoses and fittings for about a $100.00. I store the fluid in plastic barrels. You can use gravity to do the same thing but you have to lift the tire higher than your container. I remember my Dad doing it than way but very time consuming and a lot of bull work in those days. You might check rental shops in your area they might have something you can rent. Good Luck
 
I use a pto roller pump off an old crop sprayer and the tank from an old hot water heater. Any tank would work if it has a valve in the bottom. I've been handling fluid from tires this way for years very low cost and works very good. PS I hate fluid filled tires but part of farm life!
 
You need the valve and a pump but it does not need to be a high dollar item. Back in the day, before I was in high school we just used a cheep roller pump,just flush it with clean water when your are done. You can pump one out pretty easy,when you fill one, you will have to stop and bleed the air off once or twice.
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Thanks for the link to the pump. I am not sure if I should go that route or the pto roller pump idea. The pump cost less than one service call and we do all of our tires anyways except for the few we have with fluid. Tom
 
I'm a real cheapskate so I've drained the chloride solution into buckets via small diameter plastic tubing over the inner tube valve stem. After repairs are done and wheel back on the tractor I set up a wash tub with a fitting at the bottom for a drain connected to smaller tubing that fits inside the tube stem. You'd be surprised how quick gravity can load up a tire. Be careful with a stand for the washtub, just a step ladder and a couple boards back to the top of the hood, but you have to heave fairly heavy loads up into the tub. Of course I've got time for all this and saving money is what it's all about these days. Gravity and siphons are free when they aren't working against us.
 
I drained a tire into an old aluminum commercial kitchen kettle, over 40 gallons. I filled the new tire with the garden hose type valve ($10) and a 1/8 hp submersible pump and short hose. Shut off the pump to vent the tire. It was only 12.4-28.
 
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You can use plastic barrels to store the fluid,sounds like you'll be doing it pretty often if so you'd be ahead to go to a tire supply place and buy the pump set up the professional
tire changers use.It'll save you lots of time over the jackleg set ups.
 
Anyone remember back when they used powdered lead in the rear tires. I don't know how they filled the tires with that, but they soon found out that the powdered lead generated heat in the tires and damaged them, particularly if the tractor travelled at high speed. Wonder how they disposed of the powdered lead later?
 
If u go the pto roller pump route make sure u flush it good and fill with used motor oil, I've used the same one for more than 30 yrs. Those totes would work great, now u gave me an idea. thanks
 
I have a Flojet G57 air operated diaphragm pump I use. They can be found for under $100. Works great for cacl and other chemicals.
 
I use a 12 volt sprayer pump from rural king. Any where from 30 to100 dollars depending on the pump size. Works pretty good. Flush the pump with fresh water when u are done.
 

Going by memory, but to install fluid I would turn the tire so the valve stem is at the top. Lower tire with valve stem removed so that it is flat. Fasten tubing to valve stem, run tubing to liquid in container that is placed above tire. Some liquid will go in tire. When it stops jack up tire slightly. The tire will start to return to full roundness and the expanding tire will pull liquid in. When all liquid is in tire, take tubing off. Put the attachment for filling tires on garden hose, turn water on. The attachment has a pushbutton to release air pressure, don't remember name of attachment. Remove hose and replace valve stem, quickly. Adjust tire pressure. I was using antifreeze in fairly small tires, large tire would take more time. The op is needing to refill tires fairly often so for him a pump would be in order.

Older farm books show this method.

KEH
 
Lots of possibilities for pumping fluid in and out. We use a "Pacer" transfer pump plumbed to fit the tire valve stems. Use a plastic "pickup" tank to temporarily store the fluid. Works great!
 


Actually you can do it with only air pressure..

Same plastic collection tank and plastic line, but install a shut-off Valve in the line, with a tire valve for inflating the tire without having to tale the line off the tire stem..

Just pump the tire pressure up, open the valve and let it flow..

When it slows down, shut the valve and Pump the pressure up again..(use care to be sure the line stays on the tire Valve..!!!)..

When ya get to the bottom, you will need to Lower the tractor to get more out..

Ya can't get "ALL" of it out either way...but this will work well..
 

A drill operated pump like the one in the picture will fill the tire....just pump until the flow slows down ( Valve at the TOP), Remove the line and let the extra air out and repeat... fill it to the top of the rim...if you like..
 
I use air pressure to empty as much as possible.

Keep airing up the tire and let the fluid blow threw the line into the tank. Let the tire flatten right down to get out as much this was as you can. The drill pump gets any remaining, usually only a few gallons.

When refilling I used to use the drill pump, But I had a utility pump, much like a sump pump. It can build much more pressure and goes much faster. I also find just by unplugging it the pressure will blow back without having to disconnect any lines.

When mounting and setting the beads I no longer use soap. I find it rusts the rims. I now use a silicone spray.
 

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