Chisel plow

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I'm thinking I would like to try chisel plowing. I live on the
NY,PA border with heavy clay soil and many flat shale stones. I
have an IH 1086 that the Tractor Data page says has 113 draw bar
HP. Can I get some advice about whether to try it and if so what
can I reasonable pull?
 
We used to pull a 9 tooth JD with a 3505 MF which would be @ 10 less hp than your 1086,it wouldn't pull it fast mind you but it would do it
 
7 teeth would work well with your 1086 in heavy clay. I pull 10 with our 2wd 7120 magnum but it weighs a tad over 21000lbs or my 6388 2+2.
 
I've been warned against chisel plowing my rocky ground as it pulls up rock. I don't know how it can be worse than mouldboard plowing though.
 
Don't know how many shanks, but it didn't take this one long to do about 80 acres nearby. Does "535" represent horsepower?
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good soil mixing with a chisel plow requires a good amount of ground speed, say 4.5 to 5 mph. Better to start smaller like 7 shanks, or request a seller let you test plow before buying.
 
where on border are you. have an 8 shank taylor way pull witb a 970 case rated at 93 hp. . and a landini 10005.@ 100 about 8 inches deep know their behind me.. we are also near pa ny .
 
out here in the midwest; mother nature freezes out the soil deeper then a chisel plow will go in the ground. chisel plows and mowboard plows all reside in the iron buyers pile!
 
On your clay a minimum of 10 horse per shank . Works well , make sure stalks are cut up well . Goes a lot faster than moldboard. I'm from Chemung .
 
I have pulled a 13 shank chisel with an IH 1086 and it pulled hard in heavy clay. My chisel has the cutter disk on the front like the big one pictured above and that can be used to help set the depth.
It was slow going and it did the job but you need to be careful not to step on the clutch with the chisels down or you might be kissing the windshield.
It pulls a lot easier with my Ford/New Holland 8830 with 170 horses.
 
I pull a Krause 2800 7 shank disc chisel with 4in twisted shovels with a deere 4320 and 4430. Have ground all the way from sand, to clay. In the sand, both tractors play with it. In the clay, I've never tried it with the 4320, only the 4430, and it's a load. Was really considering picking up a 9 shank until I started renting this ground. Going to keep the 7. It's better to go a little smaller than you think than too big. It's nice having more tractor than you need than having to fight it all the time. I'd start with a 7.
 
I know where elmira is .company i drive for haul a lot of hydants. out of kenedy valve . i m farther south. down near montrose. scranton area
 
In my area you could easily pull a 12-14 ft chisel with a 1086..
Our soil pulls easy..Heres a 36 year old picture of my 2390 Case
on a 16 ft AC chisel with a buster bar on it..The tractor had less
than 100 hours on it then..
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I'll second the idea of 7 legs if you're talking about a modern chisel plow,not an old Graham Holme. I pull a 9 leg three point in Montcalm sandy loam with my 135 horse White 2-135. Get it hooked in to a hard headland or something,and it'll slip 18.4 38 duals until the draft control takes ahold.
 
I pull 7 shanks easily with my 1070,. your 1086 ought to be able to keep up the pace . Blaine that was a very nice rig ,. I know you and I both wish you were still working with it ,,the 2390 was hi tech hpower. and new equipment is even more hi tech today,. but not any better IMHO ...just think what our granparents farmed with 36 yrs before that pix ,1944. many had a few tractors , but most all of them still had a good team in the field working alongside ... from 1968-70 I was lucky enuf to plow tobacco , corn and taters and tomato fields with a fine mule named RED that was trained in deep ky hill country, all the neighbor kids got a chance to work him too ,.. we all loved it.. you were probably around 30-35 back in 1980,,. and no doubt like my brothers and I was a believer in earl butz s' claim" America was going to feed the world,. so tool up ,,and . borrow to build up a arsenal of new heavy duty rapid farming equipment to meet the need !",,. ,,.I Would Bet Your Daddy was like ours in Those days ,,. Stating" Go Easy and be CAREFUL,hard Times can come back again , and you are still gonna have to pay for that nice equipment,. somehow , or loose the farm "
 
An old style 2 inch chisel plow you should be able to handle 10 shanks pretty well.

A better, twisted shovel, 3-4 inch, a 7 shank would give you all you want if not more.

Paul
 
I used to pull a nine shank chisel plow in my soil with a 1086. I didn't want more. If you are talking V ripper a five shank is all a 1086 wants, again in my soil, at 12" deep.
 
old machinery salesman always said 10 horsepower per shank. this was on clay and rocks.
my neighbor bought a rock picker this fall i asked him about it he said since we stared using a deep chisel we have been pulling up lots of rocks in some fields. he said i don't think it will work very good on cornstalks will try it on bean ground.
 
I'm pulling a 7 shank with 12 inch sweeps about 9 inches deep in a clay loam mix with a JD 2550, but reading the other replies on here, I'm guessing it's been turned up a bit. I can travel anywhere from 4 to 5.5 mph.
 
What's wrong with a Graham Hoeme plow?Still have the one I farmed with for years. Worked great in all soil types.One pass in the fall with the chisel and one pass in the spring with the disk then plant.Great system.
 
Thank you everyone for your advice! I was really glad to see no one said "don't do it". I'm planning on trying 7, I would rather have too much power than not enough.
 

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