Locked trans?

Here's the story. I bought a John Deere 1010 with a bad cylinder. I found an engine and figured that was the way to get it going. We pulled the engine and was ready to install the replacement when we found that the input shaft in the transmission does not turn. We can rotate the PTO as it should and the outer shaft turns as it should. We opened the trans cover and cannot get the main shaft to move. This tractor has been setting for over 10 years. What is the next thing that I should try? I have tried to rock it, jacked it up and turned the wheels. I also asked on the John Deere and Case boards. Please can someone help me?

Part out the 1010 or haul it to a salvage yard.

Good chance the transmission sat long enough that is has a lot of water in it so the bearing etc are now locked up. The 1010 and 2010 where JDs worst tractors. I have a transmission/rear end of a 1010 I'd sell. But even then those tractors tend to be a money pit if your needing to fix them

There is no water in the trans, I'll check the rearend. However there was some rust.

The problem is I am in too deep already. I bought the tractor cheap. but like it has been said, it is a money pit. I don.t think I could get what I have in parts back out of it.

Does not take a lot of rust in.on a bearing to cause them to lock up and in most cases a rusted up bearing is bearing that need to be replaced or it can/will take out other parts

Call it a hard lesson and cut your loss now...your trying to shoe a dead horse...

If this is a five speed transmission there is a straight roller bearing on the back of the input shaft that the top shaft of the transmission runs in. This bearing is a weak link in this setup. If it goes bad you not only ruin the bearing but usually the top shaft in the transmission as it runs directly on the shaft not on an inter race. It is a common failure on these tractors.

WIth a very careful attention to movement, use a prybar or big screw driver ot wiggle gears. Do so carefully not forcefully. The intent is to see what is frozen. If it is a main shaft bearing . the shaft will have absolutely no movement at all while the other gears and shafts will move the amount of designed in clearance or backlash. If you intend to keep at it do not force the trans. dis assemble it to replace the frozen bearing. Jim

I think it is worth repairing. They are a high priced tractor if you find any for sale and would be a handy size for many things. And that engine is a good engine if it is a gas tractor. And the 45 Deere combine engine is a direct bolt in on the HC145 & HC165, that 1010 engine was what powered the 40 combine. I myself would like to have a gas powered row crop with the wide front axle. And the 1010 in no way compaires to the 2010 that will take a beating and still keep on a ticking. I also would not mind having a gas powered 2010 as long as it was a row crop model with preferably the wide front end. The Deere tractors that were from that time that everybody seem to think are so good I would not own one if you gave it to me and that is the 3010-3020 & 4010-4020. Those drove me away from Deere to Fords for farming. I have read on here that the same tranny was ysed in the 1010 that was used in the 420-430 models but hp was increased by a quarter and not strengthend. I think the problems most had was just trying to overload them at all times My JD mechanic had a 1010 with a 45 combine engine in that was putting out more power than supposed to (his G was putting out 60 HP with all stalk JD parts) and those tractors was what he was farming with and the 1010 did all his plowing with 3-14" plows.