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Had GREAT above ground produce this year (tomatoes, zucchini, green beans, cucumbers,etc) BUT below grade vegetables sucked (carrots, radish, beets, potatoes).
Will do the soil test for next year but was wondering about some fall nutrients/prep?

PS: Larry the Corner Guy made me do this!
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Veggies that are in the ground tend to like sandy organic rich soil so they can easily push the soil out of there way and grow big and not have to work hard to get that way. So if your soil is hard pack and or clay they do not grow well. They grow real well in heavy compost and soil that is loose and tends to stay loose
 
If you had big vines an above ground foliage but smaller under ground tubers and such it usually is too high of nitrogen.
 
I did the wood chip thing this year and I took myspuds out a couple weeks ago. They were very nice size with no scab The vines were as 3 foot tall.
 
my carrots and onions this was a bust,, I think I have nematodes, I added too much rich goat poo I think, my potatoes were planted in a area I did not add the goat poo too they are fine,, I have been growing a garden many years and never ever had trouble growing carrots and onions like I have this year,,
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Bing Bing ?
Had the garden on former horse ground. Might put some lime down.
Thanks JD
 
Kruser I found this out the hard way 40 years ago. I was fertilizing some rented corn ground with urea. The land owner was super nice and had a large garden right by the corn field. I thought I would help him out. I drove close enough to cover his garden with fertilizer. Flash forward four months. He had potato vines waist high and sweet corn 8-10 foot tall. He dug up fewer potatoes than he planted. LOL Had a lot of sweet corn thought.
 
get some potassium/phosphate and forget the nitrogen on below ground crops the nitrogen makes pretty vines but the potassium and phosphate will make 10lb. taters
 
Some wood ashes and a product you can look up on line called Planters II will make a world of difference,also spread some kelp in the row when you are planting.My Green peppers and tomatoes
that I planted in May are still looking good and producing even though we had some very hot and dry weather for an extended period.I also mulch them with the hay the goats and cattle don't eat
from where I feed the round hay bales.
 
Kruser,

In addition to any nutrients you end up adding...

When I gardened in the ground (vs. my wagons), I worked a little sand into our whole garden to loosen it up because it was such heavy clay ground.

For my onions, radishes and potatoes, I always worked some peat moss into the row before planting every year. It helps keep the soil loose so I assume that it allows veggies to grow more easily. It also makes harvesting your produce much easier (as opposed to heavy clay soil that really packs down after a rain).

Never grew carrots before... tried this year and they didn't amount to anything. My radishes just bolted and went to seed too. I think the soil in my wagons needs some nutrients added.
 
I would do a soil test first and go from there.
Also FYI don't plant tomatoes where you had potatoes the year before.
 
I grew Red Norland potatoes in wood chips and they came out nice! No scab, nice red color, only problem was low yield. Not enough nitrogen in the ground from the decaying wood chips.
 
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