Southern yellow prices

I am buying material to build a hay barn. I called around for 2x12x16 #1 southern yellow pine. Best prices were,, $28.00 and $30.00 per board. Just cant wrap my head around this price. Does lumber cost more way up here in the north country, or is southern yellow cheaper in the south? I need 48 boards so $28.00 gets a little pricey. Where I live we have a 58 lbs snow load so the S pine header is almost a must.
 
Good lumber is not cheap. In the south you maybe able to get rough sawed yellow one but anywhere else it is going to be finished lumber. Your going to pay more.

Also we have had inflation over the last 8-10 years. The government has hidden that fact by changing how the formula works.

How can I make the argument about inflation??? My brother and I have been building duplex apartments for close to 15 years now. These are simple two family duplexes that we rent as part of our retirement incomes. We have done six of these buildings over that 15 year period. The design and building list of materials has not changed. The total cost has increased 2 1/2 times in that 15 years. The first two cost $40K for materials. The last one this spring cost $100K materials only.

So if you have not bought any lumber, like your currently wanting lately, then the price is going to shock you.
 
Any particular reason for #1 grade? I don't see a need for it on a barn. #2 or #3 is structurally the same, and will be a lot cheaper. It will have a few knots and other appearance flaws, but you're building a barn, not a piece of furniture. :)
BillL
 
Drop the #1 and better. That is stair tread lumber and terribly expensive. What you need is #2 and better. Lumber in that size is alway's really good and most times a fourth of what you get will be stamped #1 and better even though you are paying for #2.
 
try Burke-Parsons-Bowlby Corp. Rt.21 South, Ripley WV 25271 304-372-1245. They saw a lot of southern pine & treat it for guardrail posts. Google them for more details. I used to sell them hardwood cross ties & shipped them west on Rt. 33.
 
Lowe's price here (NW La.) for a 2x12x16 is $22.79. I think I could get for less at another store here.
 
At that price I've got a million dollars worth right out my back door, if I could get it cut.
 
Can you double up the header boards and use a cheaper grade of wood? For example, the girders on my post-frame building are three 2x10 white pine boards, with one board on the outside and two on the inside. These support 30 foot trusses and the roof is plenty strong for SE Michigan, but we only need to build for a 30 pound snow load.
 
Here in the Dallas area they are running around $26.00 no matter where you go. Real wood is high. It's why a lot of buildings today are constructed with wood I joists but the savings is only a little. Personally I wouldn't build a dog house out of those.
 
2 and better Douglas Fir is $21.44 each in western Washington. Stronger than pine, I think, but we don't use pine for structural applications here, so not sure of the relative strength. I'm with the others on the #1 vs #2 and better discussion- 2 and better works just a well, just not as good in appearance.
 

They have disguised the inflation by raising prices in just one sector at a time. Unless you write it down or keep records it is hard to keep track. Raise the price some in one sector then raise it some in another. Yet Cds and interest rates remain almost zero. The public is paying for the bail outs while the executives get away with no charges. Iceland jailed 29 bankers for their part in the financial crisis. No US bankers have been jailed. So the public continues to pay.
 

I think you need to spend a few bucks and talk to an actual engineer. I used to build trusses for a heavy snowload area. I don't know if it's the same as yours, but we tended to overbuild. Roof pitch has a lot to do with the end load. I saw the calculations the engineers used, but it was way beyond me. Chances are there are several options open to you that you might not be aware of.

I would also make sure that agricultural buildings have to follow residential code.
 

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