Crap on a cracker

rrlund

Well-known Member
Doggone it. I got the big pile of manure cleaned up,wanted to clean up more in front of the barn and some out to the west where I had the round bale feeders for a while last fall. The last few loads today,the clutch started slipping a little when I'd really push hard in to the pile. I knew it was getting toward the end,in fact,I adjusted the free travel in the pedal yesterday morning. I think it'll be alright for the everyday stuff until I get first cutting hay done and have time to split it,but if I horse around over there getting it hot and loading all day long again,I'm afraid it'll be toast.
I guess if it doesn't rain too much tonight,I might as well call for another load of fertilizer in the morning and get back to planting silage corn.
Something that the milk inspector told me a long time ago keeps ringing in my ears though. He said that manure would be better off growing corn than drawing flies. It'll have to lay until I'm done filling silo in the fall.
 
Gonna be a bit before we get around to do the clutch in the 1850, too. I did FINALLY get the brakes back in the pickumup.
 
From the title I thought maybe you'd come up with a new
variation of sausage gravy over toast, unfortunately, the
optimist Mr. Murphy has chosen to visit again.

Hope it all works out for the best.
I'll keep the pitchfork comments to myself. LOL
 
You're used to splitting those Fords. Not many Olivers have to be split,but this one does. Want a job? lol
 
I'd rather do 5 of those 1850 clutches than split this 1365.

I could load the stuff out to the west with the 1600. I've got the same quick attach bucket on both loaders,but I can't get in to that wet stuff in front of the barn,so I'm ready to say to heck with it.
 
I've got one of my own I need to split and put a clutch in!
Finally figured out how to get the cab off so I can get it done.
I didn't have anything high enough to lift the cab off.

Its not a bad job on the Fords though.
I use a wheeled trailer jack to hold up one half. Bolt the plate
to the existing implement mounting holes and roll that half
wherever it needs to go. It doesn't have to go far obviously.

Does your loader frame have to come off to do the split?
I didn't look to see if it went all the way to the rear axle.
 
Ya,the whole loader will have to come off. The Super 55's and 550's aren't so bad. You can leave the whole dash and everything intact on the front half of those,so no wiring or anything has to come off. This Fiat built is a whole different animal.
 
Actually that's what they reccomend for loader tractors say the fiber disc won't hold up when I was looking into getting the clutch for my 1365 4WD.Have one in my 2WD with a loader
on it,its either in or out.I run it in low range using the loader most of the time unless I have to backup very far.
 
"button clutch makes the tractor a little jumpy"

IMHO, that's an "old mechanics' wives tale", if set up properly.

The only "issue" with using those is when the clutch is wore out way in the future somewhere the faces of the pressure plate and the flywheel will be gnawed away WAY more than by "organic" clutch disc, which would have failed sooner.
 
The 3400 and 4400 Fords were industrial variations of the 3000 and 4000s.
Usually came with factory loaders on them.
They always had the button clutches in them.
But as Bob said they will eat flywheels.
I replaced the clutch on a 3400 once.
Clutch Doctor charged me extra to surface the flywheel because the groove was so deep.
The tractor had a Lot of hours on it though and I'll bet it was the original clutch.
They don't heat up so much as an organic and will withstand hard use.
 
Hardly an old wives tale I'm using one now and when it take hold it takes hold no slipping the clutch.I see you know nothing about these Fiat tractors because if you did you'd
know the engine clutch never touches the flywheel.
 
(quoted from post at 03:36:52 05/26/16) Maybe you can explain how the engine clutch on an Oliver 1365 is going tear up the flywheel on the tractor since it never comes in contact with the flywheel?

If it has a clutch as opposed to a torque converter, and the clutch doesn't come in contact with the flywheel, it has to be contacting and wearing something or you are not going anywhere.
 
The engine clutch is what Fiat terms 'captured' inside the clutch unit itself that's bolted to the flywheel with its own drive plate and pressure plate. Also in this unit is the pressure plate for the PTO. which is released by its own lever.The clutch assembly comes as a unit already set up with only the PTO disc being separate from the unit.A very durable and tough unit
plus when it needs to be replaced you get all new surfaces for the engine clutch.
 
Another interesting thing about the 1365 is the same block is being used in the 100HP New Holland being sold now according to the mechanic that worked on my 1365 that also works at
a NH dealership.
 
That is one thing I always disliked about the 1355 we had. The clutch was grabby. My 1955 has the button clutch and the engagement is smooth as molasses. Still have the original clutch in it, too. Now that I have said that and jinxed myself, the thing will start slipping about two days from now! Lol!
 
Hey, Randy, sorry about your bad luck, and it's not even Sunday, yet. Maibach Tractor is advertising a Cockshutt 1855D in the recent Fastline, maybe you just need to add some color to your fleet!!
 
This 1365 was Cockshutt red when I bought it. I had to paint it green so the rest of them didn't beat it up.
 

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