OT - Ram Trucks - Really?????

Bill VA · May 12, 2016

Back in the day, our family had a regular cab, 4x4, long bed - DODGE Powerwagon. 4 speed, 318-V8 and the color was bright
red. It was a heck of a truck - high off the ground before anyone thought of lift kits too! I think it was a 1968 year
model.

Not being one to go out and buy new trucks these days - I just figured out there is no more DODGE trucks. The brand is Ram.
Really????

Kind of liked that DODGE name associated with generations of trucks, including the one in our family.

Nothing stays the same....

Life goes on.

oldtanker · May 12, 2016

(quoted from post at 14:41:26 05/12/16) Back in the day, our family had a regular cab, 4x4, long bed - DODGE Powerwagon. 4 speed, 318-V8 and the color was bright
red. It was a heck of a truck - high off the ground before anyone thought of lift kits too! I think it was a 1968 year
model.

Not being one to go out and buy new trucks these days - I just figured out there is no more DODGE trucks. The brand is Ram.
Really????

Kind of liked that DODGE name associated with generations of trucks, including the one in our family.

Nothing stays the same....

Life goes on.

No, no, no! The badge says Ram but it's really a FIAT!!!!! You ain't supposed to drive a Dodge anyway. Even Webster's says so. Look it up: Dodge: adj=to avoid! :twisted: :lol:

Rick

Dave Sherburne, NY · May 12, 2016

I've got two grandsons with trucks that say Dodge on them, but they always refer to them as CUMMINS trucks.

DENNIS MIN · May 12, 2016

Bill VA,

I am unsure of this....I thought RAM (profitable) was the new name started in 2010 so the Dodge folks could lay claim to a losing business and therefore qualify for gov't subsidies under TARP.

Seems right to me, seeing as I bought a Dodge Ram but they were hard trying to convince me it was RAM.

D.

Bruce from Can. · May 12, 2016

Names come , names go. Company ownerships changes regularly, the Dodge brothers have been dead since the thirties I believe , but the name lived on . Most every year trucks ,cars , tractors all come out with a new model ,may have the same name plate but it can be a totally new design. There for brand loyalty is just nothing more than a sales man's pitch to get you o come back and buy another.

David G · May 12, 2016

FIAT owns them, it was spun off so the other group could fail without affecting the truck line.

Royse · May 12, 2016

(quoted from post at 18:06:52 05/12/16)

(quoted from post at 14:41:26 05/12/16) Back in the day, our family had a regular cab, 4x4, long bed - DODGE Powerwagon. 4 speed, 318-V8 and the color was bright
red. It was a heck of a truck - high off the ground before anyone thought of lift kits too! I think it was a 1968 year
model.

Not being one to go out and buy new trucks these days - I just figured out there is no more DODGE trucks. The brand is Ram.
Really????

Kind of liked that DODGE name associated with generations of trucks, including the one in our family.

Nothing stays the same....

Life goes on.

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No, no, no! The badge says Ram but it's really a FIAT!!!!! You ain't supposed to drive a Dodge anyway. Even Webster's says so. Look it up: Dodge: adj=to avoid! :twisted: :lol:

Rick

Why Dodge it when you can RAM it! :twisted:

wfw · May 12, 2016

had a friend once who had a dodge. he said it would dodge anything but a stump!

wisbaker · May 12, 2016

actually the Dodge Brothers have been dead since the early twenties, their wives inherited the company management failed and they sold it to a holding company who ended up getting pretty darn close to bankrupt (they didn't know how to run it either) then sold it to Walter P so it became part of Chrysler Corp>

Indiana George · May 12, 2016

The new dodge eco diesel engine is made by fiat

mmfan55 · May 12, 2016

When Chrysler was required to sell to./ merge with Fiat : the tale I heard was Fiat would not go through with the deal unless the trucks were spun off into a separate entity. A separate company wholly owned by Fiat/Chrysler LLC. I guess fiat wants to only build the itty bitty autos.

Jerry Coulter · May 12, 2016

Back in the late 80s, I was on a job in Washington, IN and made acquaintance with some of the Graham family. Mr. Graham said they used Dodge power trains in the Graham auto. He also said that when the Dodge brothers died, Grahams took over running the Dodge factory until it could be sold to Chrysler.

ObsoElitist · May 12, 2016

(quoted from post at 19:10:56 05/12/16) Back in the late 80s, I was on a job in Washington, IN and made acquaintance with some of the Graham family. Mr. Graham said they used Dodge power trains in the Graham auto. He also said that when the Dodge brothers died, Grahams took over running the Dodge factory until it could be sold to Chrysler.

You got it backwards. Graham Bros build trucks using Dodge parts, and also built trucks branded Dodge to Dodge bros until they bought the company.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham-Paige

BarnyardEngineering · May 13, 2016

Yup, the RAM brand spinoff is meant to facilitate the sale of the truck line should the need arise.

I never understood why failing companies sell off the profitable businesses and then spend the rest of their days circling the toilet trying to make the failing businesses work. International Harvester, Kodak, Chrysler all have, or are, doing this.

Yes, the profitable businesses have value that can raise way more cash than the failing businesses, but wouldn't it make more sense to just shutter the failing divisions, and concentrate on what's making money? Chrysler was making good money on the trucks and Jeep line, so quit making the junk cars and concentrate on what works!

Bryan inIowa · May 13, 2016

Websters "dodge" to avoid . lol

T in NE · May 13, 2016

VM Motori. Joint venture between GM and Fiat.

oldtanker · May 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:42:03 05/12/16) I've got two grandsons with trucks that say Dodge on them, but they always refer to them as CUMMINS trucks.

Yes the Cummins diesel......great engine, too bad the shipping container is so bad!

Rick

Eldon (WA) · May 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 06:08:31 05/13/16)

(quoted from post at 15:42:03 05/12/16) I've got two grandsons with trucks that say Dodge on them, but they always refer to them as CUMMINS trucks.

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Yes the Cummins diesel......great engine, too bad the shipping container is so bad!

Rick

Mr negativity hits again....and again.....

If Dodge trucks were soooo bad why are there millions of them on the road? My 04 duallie has been the most trouble free truck I have ever owned, it's made me a lot of money over the years pulling over 10 tons daily... and only failed me once (and that was an injector line on the CUMMINS!

dhermesc · May 13, 2016

Made a lot of money for some mechanics too. I don't think there are a million "Ram" pickups on the road.

Ozlander · May 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 16:24:07 05/13/16) Made a lot of money for some mechanics too. I don't think there are a million "Ram" pickups on the road.

Yeah, they still on the road while the Chevy's and Ford's are home in the garage.

oldtanker · May 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 17:27:49 05/13/16)

(quoted from post at 16:24:07 05/13/16) Made a lot of money for some mechanics too. I don't think there are a million "Ram" pickups on the road.

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Yeah, they still on the road while the Chevy's and Ford's are home in the garage.

That's right, the Fords and Chevy's made it home and are put away in the garage while the "Rams" are there, where they broke down at on the road! :twisted: :twisted:

Rick

Pair-a-dice farm · May 13, 2016

I've always been a Ford guy with a chevy or two. I have always got 2-300K out of my Fords. In 2005 I decided to try a dodge. It will be my 1st and last. My dad had a couple of Dodge trucks back in the 70's and 80's that were darn good trucks except for the bodies. My wife had a '78 dodge car when we got married that was OK. The 2005 is a POS and sets in the barn most of the time. I'm reluctant to drive it to town and it only has 130K. The body is OK but the rest of the truck is junk.

tractorguy2 · May 13, 2016

Everyone single person I know that has a Dodge has had either the third gear go out of the 5 speeds or reverse out in the
automatics.

oldtanker · May 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 07:41:36 05/13/16)

(quoted from post at 06:08:31 05/13/16)

(quoted from post at 15:42:03 05/12/16) I've got two grandsons with trucks that say Dodge on them, but they always refer to them as CUMMINS trucks.

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Yes the Cummins diesel......great engine, too bad the shipping container is so bad!

Rick

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Mr negativity hits again....and again.....

If Dodge trucks were soooo bad why are there millions of them on the road? My 04 duallie has been the most trouble free truck I have ever owned, it's made me a lot of money over the years pulling over 10 tons daily... and only failed me once (and that was an injector line on the CUMMINS!

An MR I gotta attack while hiding behind a computer screen attacks again and again.....still hiding behind a computer screen.

LOL I was joking. Gee you really need to get take a chill pill.

But seeing as you are making claims:

While working as a mechanic and knowing other mechanics for other shops in the area:

If you bothered to count pickups here at that time out of every 10 2 were Dodge/Ram. Of the pickups we worked on they were right at 50% of our work per units in/out the door. On average those 2 Dodge/Ram's had more major work that was required than any 4 Ford's or Chevy's we got in. Other shops reported the same thing. Most were transmission or electrical issues.

Of all the professional mechanics I know today not one drives a Chrysler/Ram/Dodge or Fiat product as a personal vehicle. And I know a couple of dozen or so from actual wrench turners to shop owners/wrench turners (I know 10 of them). These are all automotive, not AG shops. Some I know well and other in passing enough so that I know who their wives and kids are.

Rick

ObsoElitist · May 14, 2016

Yes the Cummins diesel......great engine, too bad the shipping container is so bad!

Rick

Yup. My 92 W350 is a great truck with a thin mexican body, bad wiring, and paint made of chalk. With a few adjustmants it pulls like a big boy, and does not have the engine choking smog gear of the newer models.

oldtanker · May 14, 2016

(quoted from post at 07:20:10 05/14/16)

Yes the Cummins diesel......great engine, too bad the shipping container is so bad!

Rick

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Yup. My 92 W350 is a great truck with a thin mexican body, bad wiring, and paint made of chalk. With a few adjustmants it pulls like a big boy, and does not have the engine choking smog gear of the newer models.

One of our customers had an early model diesel like that. All he did was pull a camper with it. It was in a lot over electrical issues IIRC. Paint looked about like that too.

Kinda makes me wonder though, why is it OK for a Dodge/Ram or Chevy guy to make jokes about Ford or for the Dodge/Ram or Ford guys to make jokes about Chevy, but it's not OK for the Ford and Chevy guys to make jokes about Dodge/Ram? And that is a real question, not a joke.

Rick

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