Allis Chalmers D15 model II hand start

Mark_Walters · Feb 27, 2016

Hey guys, I have recently acquired an Allis Chalmers D15 model II. It has been sitting for about thirty years and I have been working on restoring it. I have been told that there is a way turn it over by hand and that it has something to do with the bottom pulley. Would you guys be able to help me out here? Thanks.

David R Inman · Feb 28, 2016

Provided you do not have a loader and a front mounted hyd pump for the loader, if you look closely at this image I grabbed off the net, you will see at the bottom of the white part of the grill, between the two arches for the cultivator mounting brackets, a punch out, that on the tractor shown has never been removed. If you remove the punch out (it might even be gone already), you can then insert a crank through the front of the tractor to the crankshaft pulley (which is the lowest pulley on the front of the tractor) to hand crank. Now of course to actually start using the hand crank, you will find may posts on the form regarding safety, which apply across brands/models.

If you are just tiring to determine if the motor is locked up, you may also be able to pull on the fan belt in such a way as to turn the crank pulley.

Bob Bancroft · Feb 28, 2016

D15II has a different front pulley with no hand crank notches.

Mark_Walters · Feb 28, 2016

Dear Bob, I know that it does not really have an option to turn it over with a crank. I am restoring it and need to see whether or not it is stuck. I have the grill, radiator, and fan taken off of the front. I just need to find out if there is a way for me to turn the pulleys in a way that will make it turn over.

Mark_Walters · Feb 28, 2016

Dear David, I would just like to say that your tractor here is beautiful. I am in the middle of restoring mine after it has sat in my grandpas shed for thirty years untouched. I also notice that your paint is top notch. Do you know of any places near Kansas city Missouri that will paint fairly cheaply? Thanks, Mark.

Mark_Walters · Feb 28, 2016

Well David, you can forget the first part of that, I read your post a little to quickly and only noticed upon returning to it that you said that you had grabbed that picture off of the internet. The second part though about places near KCMO where I can get mine painted still stands. Sorry about the mix-up, Mark

David R Inman · Feb 28, 2016

Yep, credit for the pick I posted is the link included.

He s in IL, so not much help to you. My dad also has
a D15 series II that is allready on its second coat of
paint and well due for new paint-weve painted
several AC s, IHC's and Case's our self using various
paints and an air gun-never look as nice as the one
in the link, but better than the old paint.

Warning, D15 Series II decals are pricey at over $100
a set.
Untitled URL Link

Mark_Walters · Feb 28, 2016

Thankfully most of my decals are still in place, only need to replace two or three.

David R Inman · Feb 28, 2016

With all that off, you can probably get a bite onto the
pulley with a pipe wrench, or anything else that you
can come up with to get leverage on the crank
pulley-didnt realize series II had no notches for the
crank despite having the spot in the grill-but have
never tryed to hand crank our D15 Series II. Seam to
recall we also on one occasion were counting the
#of teeth on the ring gear, and did so by pulling the
starter off, and then usinf a pry bar to turn it form the
teeth of the ring gear.

And speaking of the starter, I take it that its not
working, or else you'd know if the motor turns over
from it?

Mark_Walters · Feb 28, 2016

Actually what happened is one night it got colder than it was supposed to and my grandpa hadn't put enough antifreeze in it. The next morning there was antifreeze in the oil. We believe it to be a cracked block, head, or sleeve but we are not sure for certain. The good news is that I took the valve cover off yesterday and two of the three freeze plugs are popped up so that could be a good sign. The tractor has sat for so long that there are multiple things wrong with it. I have just finished draining the gas tank, and am still working on the cleaning process. So far though, everything is going quite well and the tractor is already looking much better. The biggest thing here will be working on the inside parts because everything has sat for so long that it's all rusted, and falling apart. I will have to replace all the gaskets also.

rbhuntn · Feb 29, 2016

To all you AC guys out there. I know Mark and he is a hard working nice young man (early teens). Part of a good Christian family. I have been around him some and he is eager to learn. He may be young but he has earned my trust and respect. Heck I turned him loose on my new Mahindra this past weekend.

Please go easy on him and you may have to get a bit more detailed than usual.

He has the drive and determination to get this old AC going again.

Mark I will help when I can.

Mark the Allis Chambers section of this site will be a wealth of Information for you as well.

BJ

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