OT Canadian / US Neighbors

Moonlite37

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Just wondering if your farm joins the U.S. Canadian border can you just cross over to see your nearest neighbor on the other side? Must be interesting to live on a national border.
 
(quoted from post at 08:30:57 02/08/16) Just wondering if your farm joins the U.S. Canadian border can you just cross over to see your nearest neighbor on the other side? Must be interesting to live on a national border.
I think technically you're supposed to report to authorities when you cross the border. I had a sailboat on Lake St. Clair in SE Michigan and I was supposed to report when I docked for dinner or gas or anything. I did it once. Although having Michigan MC #'s on the boat made it obvious I was from Michigan, nobody complained or turned me in.
 
Thank you. I just wondered if you see your nearest neighbor and he happens to be across the national border in rural areas. how is this handled. I am sure I would be tempted to cross out of curiosity. What about straying farm animals?
 
Seam to remember on TV a while back they were talking about a town right on the border. Had a building that was half in U.S. and half in Canada.
While years ago you could go from one side of town to the other with no problem; but do not think it so easy any more.

Do not rightly remember the whole story but seems they were cutting the town in half.
 
watched a show on maine game wardens, hunters were crossing back and forth, lots of deer stands along the line,...of course they were after canadians crossing over during moose season
 
Taillions Hotel in Dundee Quebec. We would go from here by boat. The border ran through the building. There was a black line painted on the floor of the barroom. You'd buy beer on one side of the border and could shoot pool on the other. I can't remember exactly but the customs building was just beyond this point for us so we didn't have to check in if we only went to the hotel. That was 25-30 years ago. I don't know if it still is open or not.
 
Sure can! The St.Regis Mohawk Reservation in NY and Ontario. Biggest whole in the northern border. Hiway for Drugs and illegals! The grandson of an acquaintance who was involved in undocumented commodity logistics went through the ice on his snowmobile last winter. found one sled and his buddies corpse, his was never found!
 
(quoted from post at 05:30:57 02/08/16) Just wondering if your farm joins the U.S. Canadian border can you just cross over to see your nearest neighbor on the other side? Must be interesting to live on a national border.

If a person is well known and well respected on both sides of the border and crosses over at a point that doesn't have a check point to visit a neighbor the authorities MAY look the other way.And they may not.I've been told that there are motion detecters or cameras along the line to detect people crossing illegally.If a road crossed at some point but there was no checkpoint,it's been guardrailed
Forget about sneaking a herd of cows across.If caught you'll loose the livestock,pay a hefty fine and maybe do time.
It's too easy to cross legally by answering a few questions,showing I.D. rather than crossing illegally.It may be inconvenient and you may have to take a roundabout route to get where you want to go but.......
 
(quoted from post at 07:10:49 02/08/16) Sure can! The St.Regis Mohawk Reservation in NY and Ontario. Biggest whole in the northern border. Hiway for Drugs and illegals! The grandson of an acquaintance who was involved in undocumented commodity logistics went through the ice on his snowmobile last winter. found one sled and his buddies corpse, his was never found!

Pitch,That whole thing has turned into an awful mess for both the U.S.,Canada and the St.Regis Mohawks.
 

One time when crossing into the US my vehicle and somebody else's vehicle were both pulled in for a check through the vehicles.
The US customs agent was a middle aged and somewhat stressed dude . The customs agent was giving the other Canaian a hard time , calling him an alien etc. I said " hey bud, we are just your neighbours over for a visit". The customs agent kinda stopped, looked around and said . " well yeah, way you go "and waved us through.
I suspect some supervisor of the customs officer had recently delivered some supercharged " we are the last line of defence against the heathen" Ray rah speech to his staff.
 
Hi We are pretty close to the border in Canada, crossing like that used to happen in the old days, round here. I'm kinda thinking now it won't be long before you get caught. I took a guy to look at a tractor right on the border. the owner gave us directions and I said something about missing the turn,if we weren't careful. He said you will soon know as the black hawk helicopter will be a pretty good clue!. I think it may be drones now though.
I also heard there is listening devices a few miles before the border on highways so they can hear conversations in vehicles driving up to the border, then they can listen for guys talking about what to say at the border to hide illegal activity's. There are some small black boxes in the trees not far from our crossing, so could be true!.
Guys that ran land both sides used to come to the seed plant, they had to cross at a border post, and had machinery both sides. They said it was too time consuming to get equipment clean to bring it across for a couple days and then take it home. Now the U.S has changed export paperwork I don't think it would be easy to do it at all now. I think the old man Glintz retired/maybe passed away, and his son in law got killed in an accident and the land up here maybe got sold a while ago. I have heard nothing of them in this area for a long time.
Regards Robert
 
If you have a border crossing permit from both countries and call the authorities you still can, otherwise no, probably no exceptions.If you are boating in the Rainy River you can cross over the center line for navigation but not stop and fish, or touch Canadian soil. Not sure about the native Americans, they always could before 9/11. I used to go across quite often in 1968, nice girl lived across the river!
 
Many moons ago we had a crossing on the REZ that was used regularly to bring beer across on Sunday. Many late night trips were made there. In later years it was used to move drugs. Today a big ditch has been dug across the road and sensors have been installed. There are sensors of some kind even in very remote and rugged areas. If I get close to the border with my dog he goes nuts. He has crawled over the seat get up front with us. Once my wife got into the back seat with him to keep him settled down a bit. He pants and sweats and gets very anxious. While driving to Vancouver there is one area we see on the GPS that we parallel the border. Every trip he reacts the same. Other than that he travels very well.
Dave
 
I have a relative that farmed in Manitoba on the border, he did not have cattle but had some land next to the border that was only suitable for pasture. His neighbor in North Dakota Had cattle and rented the pasture, the cattle crossed back and forth at will, probably doesn't happen anymore!
 
Dunno about farming, but there's a place called Point Roberts here in Warshinton that's in the US, but the only land access is thru Canada. It's a little place, beautiful scenery, but if you live there and want to go to the Dr or get your car license tabs, you gotta cross the border twice, and one of those crossings is real busy.
 
Almost the same on the southern border with Mexico. The US is real fussy who comes and goes, Mexico doesn't care much who crosses into the US. I believe there are still places where you can cross from one desert to the other, and you will usually die before you make it to civilization, unless you pack gallon's of water. I don't know if it still happens, but people, would install watering places in the desert for crossers from Mexico. Stan
 

My co-workers were fishing in the St Lawrence around the Saunders Generating Station. They were following the school of fish around with the fish finder for an hour or two. Eventually they wandered a few feet onto the US side.
The American authorities came roaring out yelling and screaming while waving guns . As if they were fending off an all out invasion and in the process saving 10,000's of Anerican lives from death, disease and slavery.
We didn't think a 6lb walleye fish was worth that much fuss. And wondered how they ignore the border area with the native reservations, adjacent on both sides of the river.
It was wasn't much better on the Saunders Generating Station either . Start working on a unit down towards the middle where the border is and security has eyes and cameras on you by the dozen. If you walk around a cart , materials or are pulling on a rope and get near the line . They guards must be some awful bored since being discharged from active live combat in the Middle East . The US guards outright freak and are just about ready to shoot first and ask questions later . On somebody they have watched work around the place for years.
On the Canadian side the guards ask how your day is going and what the fishing was like on your day off. Then they pass the box of TimBits over to you to share.
 
That town is Derby Line, Vermont visible from my front porch .The library has the stacks in Canada and the reading room partly in the US. Upstairs is the opera house, with the seats in the US and the stage in Canada. you can move freely in the building,but only one entrance now. The library is supported by Derby Line and Stanstead Quebec. Harder to cross than it used to be, but I still buy some equipment in Canada and get machine shop work done there. Sometimes they wave you through with tedder or a rake on your trailer, and sometime they will sweat you for the $5 tax on the bottle you bought at the Duty Free. I once took a tractor up to get a loader built for it at a welding shop (best one I ever had) I had to pay duty to bring my 30 year old Mannheim JD back into the the US, not much, but the b**8th of a custom agent wouldn't let me go without tagging me because I was "importing a German tractor". Later I was told that she was just like that sometimes. Just my luck
 
(quoted from post at 20:37:03 02/08/16)
My co-workers were fishing in the St Lawrence around the Saunders Generating Station. They were following the school of fish around with the fish finder for an hour or two. Eventually they wandered a few feet onto the US side.
The American authorities came roaring out yelling and screaming while waving guns . As if they were fending off an all out invasion and in the process saving 10,000's of Anerican lives from death, disease and slavery.
We didn't think a 6lb walleye fish was worth that much fuss. And wondered how they ignore the border area with the native reservations, adjacent on both sides of the river.
It was wasn't much better on the Saunders Generating Station either . Start working on a unit down towards the middle where the border is and security has eyes and cameras on you by the dozen. If you walk around a cart , materials or are pulling on a rope and get near the line . They guards must be some awful bored since being discharged from active live combat in the Middle East . The US guards outright freak and are just about ready to shoot first and ask questions later . On somebody they have watched work around the place for years.
On the Canadian side the guards ask how your day is going and what the fishing was like on your day off. Then they pass the box of TimBits over to you to share.

Unless you were there to actually witness the Americans waving guns around, I'd say your friends are telling a fish story. It doesn't happen.
 

Holding their firearms instead of in the holster qualifies as waving them around .
Wow, you would think some walleye fishermen were a crisis .
 
(quoted from post at 10:24:02 06/10/19)
Holding their firearms instead of in the holster qualifies as waving them around .
Wow, you would think some walleye fishermen were a crisis .

Or, just some people PRETENDING to fish walleye with the bottom of the boat lined with drugs... You never know.

The "show of force" is mostly so word gets out that the authorities don't mess around. It's working. We're talking about it here.
 

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