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(quoted from post at 04:42:06 09/30/15) Terre Haute got it's first roundabout. What is interesting is who paid for 80% the cost.
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We got two this summer they are back to back. I really like them BUT I am the only person that does around here... The problem with a roundabout is every one has to actually pay attention to the other guy :shock: I believe there were 11 wrecks the first month are so :lol: folks are such a damm big hurry and assume were the other guy MAY turn out so they don't yield to traffic in the roundabout... I read in the paper this week they are going to put up some kind if bright LED lights at the roundabout...

I think they would be much safer if they took the yield signs out and made every one stop...

You can google, exit 71 sanford,nc and see them...
 
(quoted from post at 19:54:13 09/29/15)

We got two this summer they are back to back. I really like them BUT I am the only person that does around here... The problem with a roundabout is every one has to actually pay attention to the other guy :shock: I believe there were 11 wrecks the first month are so :lol: folks are such a damm big hurry and assume were the other guy MAY turn out so they don't yield to traffic in the roundabout... I read in the paper this week they are going to put up some kind if bright LED lights at the roundabout...

I think they would be much safer if they took the yield signs out and made every one stop...

You can google, exit 71 sanford,nc and see them...
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No, no, no, no. NOOO!
Anyone in the roundabout has the right of way, you only have to look left to ensure you can go meaning parts of the day you only need to slow to enter the roundabout. They are incredibly safe because even in the event of a collision everyone is moving <20mph so little chance for severe injury and minor property damage. They'll speed up your transit through congested areas and improve overall fuel economy. I love them and wish most stop lights were converted to roundabouts and nearly all 4-way stops were converted.
 
When I drive through them I still think of Chevy Chase in national lampoons european vacation, hey look kids Big Ben, the parliament.
 
Watertown SD just got it's first roundabout near the new Jr. High School. But the engineers can never figure normal intersections out so semis don't run over the curb and this is no different. Went thru it today and is too small for the truck traffic on the road....won't be long before the curbs are all broken from 53' trailers running over them.
 
I lived in St. Cloud MN when they first started putting round abouts in up there a few years back. Everybody including me thought they were rediculous and would be replaced with stop lights before long. That was until they put the first one in. They are the best thing in the world. I love them and so does everybody else as far as I know. We were told at the time that the curb on the inside of the circle is designed for the trailers to drive up over top without damage to concrete and tires. It's only there to keep cars from cutting through.
 
Just my opinion but, I hate roundabouts. I try to avoid them. To me they seem more dangerous than a four way stop.
We found out they put roundabouts in worthington, mn, unfortunate it was dark we got turned in the wrong direction but did finally end up where we wanted to go.
 
Ive been through them in Worthington....they are "interesting"...lol. Ran into one in Sioux Falls on the south / east end of town. Didn't even know they had them there.
 
you guys are really behind the times. here at oshkosh wis we have numerous roundabouts. most are on the roads over interstate 41. on three different roads over and onto 41 we have to go thru 4 roundabouts to get to other side. 2 are multiple lane with on off lanes to 41 or over to other side. really confusing if you dont know where you are going. roundabouts are all right if there is little traffic you go right thru, heavy traffic you sit there waiting to go thru. they tell us they are safer, less t-bone accidents, more fenderbenders. dont know how we got all the roundabouts. where hwy 21 comes into oshkosh, the plan is for 3 more. thats 7 just to go over 41! went to the hwy 21 meeting, they call it the 21 expressway, i told them it aint a expressway with 7 roundabouts. can you imagine stopping and going thru 7 roundabouts with a semi?
 
You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait til they start installing Double-Diamonds..... no that's not the name. DIVERGING Diamond intersections, I think they are called.
Here in Springfield MO. area they are real proud of them over the interstates. You enter an overpass crossing over the interstate 4-lane ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. Oncoming traffic swerves to be on your right, right across in front of you. You swerve left, then right, drive across ON THE LEFT SIDE, then cross again against on-coming traffic as it swerves across in front of you.... hard to describe, and we've sort of got used to them. And every so often there's a few stop lights in there, lots of arrows. Just wait, guys. You'll love them!!
 
Pretty sure that's what they're doing at the interchange of 41 & 441 in Neenah. They put in a roundabout nest my parents farm, and it's much safer note than it was before for tractors and other agricultural traffic that goes through there. Was always afraid of being run down by big trucks before hand when I had to make a left turn into the main hwy with a fairly blind curve to the right.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
As soon as the weather clears next week, SCDOT is going to start on a $900,000+ roundabout that is on an intersection that is not very busy. Local contractor is going to build it. Supposed to take a year.
What a waste of money!!!
One guy from the state DOT office said he wants to get a lawn chair and cooler and sit and watch the confusion it is going to create next fall. Most folks in our area have never seen a roundabout.
What a waste of taxpayer money. Sure it creates jobs, but the workers are not native to our area.
Richard in NW SC
 
(reply to post at 15:42:06 09/29/15)
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I remember when rotaries were condemned in the seventies, and they were all getting replaced with lights and many lanes. Fifteen years or so ago they started getting popular again. Here in NH many are built with inner and outer lanes so that if you are taking the first or second exit you stay in the outer. There are always people who will do their best to defeat anything. When I had my truck I had to come almost to a stop entering one once, so it was taking me awhile to get going. I noticed a car that entered on the opposite side that was accelerating rapidly, and I could see that he was intent on getting ahead of me. I just kept going, and he finally saw that it wouldn't go well if he kept going, and he had to bail out onto the grass in the center. There was a state cop behind me observing this, and he put on his lights and went up onto the center with the powerful little car. Fortunately right-of-way is not always determined by rate of acceleration.
 
(quoted from post at 06:22:36 09/30/15) As soon as the weather clears next week, SCDOT is going to start on a $900,000+ roundabout that is on an intersection that is not very busy. Local contractor is going to build it. Supposed to take a year.
What a waste of money!!!
One guy from the state DOT office said he wants to get a lawn chair and cooler and sit and watch the confusion it is going to create next fall. Most folks in our area have never seen a roundabout.
What a waste of taxpayer money. Sure it creates jobs, but the workers are not native to our area.
Richard in NW SC
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Spending huge sums on something so simple is ridiculous, many roundabouts in England is just a painted dot in an intersection with signage befor the intersection indicating it's a traffic circle. Obviously doesn't work in areas with lots of semi's but works fine for residential and local traffic.
 
The county will pay for most of the project! Where do people think the Federal money came from? The people from the county sent it to the federal gov. I have to laugh every time someone says (it won't cost us much because the Feds will pay for most of it)
 
Hate them. They're ok in less congested areas. But near me they put 2 back to back IN FRONT OF 2 HIGH SCHOOLS. I avoid that area in the AM when there are school buses, teens (lots of new teenage drivers), parents dropping kid off at school all converging. It can take quite a while to get through depending upon where you're trying to enter them.
 
I call them death traps. Goverment thinks people will slow down to 25 going through them with 35 on rest of road, in actuallity they speed up to 45 or better to get through them. Just been a new one installed close to me and I will drive 5 mile out of my way to go around it. Anouther town that I rarly go through has one center of town with 2 state highways going east-west and a 3rd going north-south and almost impossible to detour around it. Big momument in middle. And I have been involved in 2 non stop from left at stop sign wecks in about 2 1/2 months. Just last week I got a cracked rib out of that. I still prefer the stop signs as safer. First time wiped out trailer I was pulling, did not hurt truck, this time totally destroyed truck, luckey I did not have to be cut out of it. Insurance only willing to pay 2/3 of market value.
 
Did anyone read the part where roundabouts are suppose to cut down on air pollution so 80% of the cost is paid for from some government fund? Now that's today's funny.
 

Everytime they bring those European ideals over here, we get people hurt or killed.


When they moved the headlight dimmer switch from the floor, to the steering colum, we had tons of accidents where people got their feet caught in the steering wheel.

When will people learn????
 
When they moved the headlight dimmer switch from the floor, to the steering colum, we had tons of accidents where people got their feet caught in the steering wheel.

When will people learn????
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know that was meant as a joke, but that is one thing that was a good idea. we were always having trouble with the floor dimmer switches due to ice, mud, or manure in them.
 
(quoted from post at 10:13:41 09/30/15)
When they moved the headlight dimmer switch from the floor, to the steering colum, we had tons of accidents where people got their feet caught in the steering wheel.

When will people learn????
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know that was meant as a joke, but that is one thing that was a good idea. we were always having trouble with the floor dimmer switches due to ice, mud, or manure in them.
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ad one here in the 1950's.....after enough wrecks & deaths, they finally bulldozed the POS.
 
We had our first one here about 10 years ago. I am ok with it, but a lot of older people aren't. Interestingly, I looked at aerial photos of the Detroit area from the 20's and 30's, there were quite a few roundabouts, they were called traffic circles then. Everything comes around.
 
I think they are just another engineering mystery that never get scheduled for installation in the engineer's living area.
 
Spook,
I see a lot of people get completely confused in the roundabout by your house. Assume youre talking Lee Rd exit.
I think if there were not three roundabouts right on top of each other, it would flow a bit better.

There is a double at the M-81 exit US 23. (Saginaw) That one flows pretty good once you've been through it.
Its the newbies that get confused.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 11:27:11 09/30/15) I hate them. Biggest waste of money in road construction.
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As for the 'waste' aspect, they fall in same category as the "A Michigan left is an at-grade intersection design which replaces each left turn with a U-turn and a right turn." City/state spent around half million to install here, totally rejected by citizenry, abandoned after about 1-2 years. Now spend again to tear it out! Maybe modern WPA programs.
 
Many Indiana county seats had what was effectively a roundabout around the courthouse 100 years ago.
If great grandpa could handle it, surely his great great grand daughter can too.
 
(quoted from post at 12:37:08 09/30/15) Many Indiana county seats had what was effectively a roundabout around the courthouse 100 years ago.
If great grandpa could handle it, surely his great great grand daughter can too.
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nly if she can ride a horse. :wink:
 

I love left hand exit and merge and double diamonds. You don't even have to touch the brake at highway speed to b lend right on through. If you have to find a spot to merge into you use the accelerator, not the brake, and everyone is happy.
 
The US is way behind roundabouts/traffic circles. First one I ever drove on was in Stuttgart Germany in the mid 70's. First one I was on had 3 traffic lanes in the circle.

Rick
 
Modern roundabouts are designed for trucks, large vehicles, and trailer towing vehicles by including the center flat area around the circle. It?s not a sidewalk, it?s called a truck apron, and it?s for trucks to begin a sharp right or end a left or U-turn on.

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(quoted from post at 16:29:37 09/30/15) The US is way behind roundabouts/traffic circles. First one I ever drove on was in Stuttgart Germany in the mid 70's. First one I was on had 3 traffic lanes in the circle.

Rick
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s I already said, we had one in Texas in the 1950's, but thankfully it was finally bulldozed!
 
First one I encountered was at Ft. Bragg, NC, summer of 1965 while at SF training group. Just bought my first car, bringing it on post. Totally new concept to me at the time. Only problem I see with them is when they are built too small, when pulling a machine trailer through them. And when they are in residential areas...I just don"t see the need. They must be a bear to clear with a snow plow!
 
Diverging diamond interchange opened in St. Cloud, MN last year....extremely simple flow of traffic, well controlled by stop lights. Driving on the left side of opposing traffic is no problem. Your "swerving" is overstated...everything is controlled by traffic lights.
 
(quoted from post at 19:08:42 09/30/15)
Maybe they don't make one big enuff for Texas...
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ow fast enough!
But I have been on really huge ones in Europe & mostly I saw lots of horn honking, 'birds', fender benders & crushed to death cyclists.
 
(quoted from post at 08:19:35 09/30/15) Spook,
I see a lot of people get completely confused in the roundabout by your house. Assume youre talking Lee Rd exit.
I think if there were not three roundabouts right on top of each other, it would flow a bit better.

There is a double at the M-81 exit US 23. (Saginaw) That one flows pretty good once you've been through it.
Its the newbies that get confused.

Rick
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Yup, that's the one. We have friends that plot way around the intersection, mostly to go to Costco. They take Rickett? rd, essentially the back way from Brighton. I think it is pretty much generational, older folks really dislike it, younger folks don't seem to mind much.
 
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(quoted from post at 08:19:35 09/30/15) Spook,
I see a lot of people get completely confused in the roundabout by your house. Assume youre talking Lee Rd exit.
I think if there were not three roundabouts right on top of each other, it would flow a bit better.

There is a double at the M-81 exit US 23. (Saginaw) That one flows pretty good once you've been through it.
Its the newbies that get confused.

Rick
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Yup, that's the one. We have friends that plot way around the intersection, mostly to go to Costco. They take Rickett? rd, essentially the back way from Brighton. I think it is pretty much generational, older folks really dislike it, younger folks don't seem to mind much.
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hink what you like, but I'm telling you that I didn't like them 60 years ago, 15 years ago, or now!
 
Love them! I have driven 4 lane roundabouts in France, England, and Mexico.
If Amaericans are as good drivers as they claim to be, they will figure them out. When leading a pack of motorcycles in places like Truckee, if traffic is light I have been known to take 3 or more laps.
 
(quoted from post at 23:06:47 09/30/15) Love them! I have driven 4 lane roundabouts in France, England, and Mexico.
If Amaericans are as good drivers as they claim to be, they will figure them out. When leading a pack of motorcycles in places like Truckee, if traffic is light I have been known to take 3 or more laps.
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ust luck that you are not a greasy spot under a bus.
 
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