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1948 8N, Is 1953 Jubilee a huge upgrade???

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I have a 48 8N that I've had for 9 years now and I've been looking at a 53 Jubilee that's for sale not too far away. I don't use a tractor that much just maintaining my small 3 acres and tending a small garden, but I really would like to have a live PTO(not 100% sure that the jubilee has that but I think so). I can get the jubilee which is in good to really good shape and the guy is the second owner, tractor has always been sheltered, so the paint is still pretty good too. With what he's asking and then getting a fair price for mine, I should be able to move to the jubilee for well under $1500. Just wondered if this would be a good step up to make or is there not enough difference in the two tractors to make the jump? Thanks for the help.
 
Live hydraulic is a huge step up, but it
doesn't have live pto unless the add on
hydraulic clutch kit that went in the rear
end and is both rare and troublesome
 
The engine in the NAA is a big improvement over the flat head in the N series tractors. As others have mentioned the NAA has live hydraulics which is really nice. Many of the parts for the NAA series tractors, especially in the hydraulics and transmission are specific to that tractor making them difficult to find and more expensive.

A Ford 861 is a big step up from the Ford N series tractors, it has live pto, live hydraulics, 40+ hp, and most parts are very available. The Naa, 600, 700, 800, 900, and 2000 series tractors with 4 cylinder engines share a lot of the same parts which makes them quite available.

NAA is a good tractor and will certainly do the job that you need, especially if you've been happy with the performance of the N series tractor. I personally like the Massey TO-35, MF50, 135, 150 series tractor.
 
My biggest complaint about my 8n is lack of live hydraulics...really makes a 3 point mounted sickle mower a PITA
 
I have a Jubilee, wish I had something newer with live pto. I think ford used the 8n rear end on
the Jubilee. I had to rebuild my hyd pump, which was an up grade. OEM used a square vane pump. My
engine was rebuilt before I got it, good engine more hp. The parts under the lift cover on mine has
seen better days, rust and wear. I think those parts were only used in 1953=54. If tires are good,
good clutch, tranny, engine, and hydraulisc work then but it. My oem gas tank was flaking off
inside, I had to replace it.
 
the other posters have gave you the specifics,
so just your original question..
Is a Jubilee a huge upgrade over a 8N?
Yes

even the most ardent N fan....put him on a NAA/600
for a time....then ask him...and make him be honest...
there will be only one answer possible.
 
(reply to post at 12:09:04 09/29/15)
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Is the NAA an upgrade from an 8N? Yes but because of the parts availability and having some weak points I would shy away from one. A Ford 600 replaced the NAA but is a better tractor with one piece axles,upgraded hydraulics and parts are easily found compared to the NAA pieces that are unique to them. Most NAA did not get the live pto option,but lots of 600's have live pto and hydraulics. The best part is around here you can usually find a 600 for close to the same money as an NAA.
 

You must have a different brand sickle mower than a Dearborn or Ferguson mower you used on an 8N? I'm just asking that because the Ferguson 6-AEO-A20,7-AEO-A20,Dearborn 14-1,14-2 mowers used the chain which hooked to the top link to set the mower height and then the later Dearborn 14-15,14-16 mowers which came out around the time of the 8N release used the built in top link. They had a latch on the top link for transport position and then you unlatched it and let the mower down for mowing.
 

Unless it has live pto, live hydraulics, a real drawbar , a creeper 1st gear , a slow reverse and working brakes. Why would you want it ?
 
Jubilee has live hyds but does not have a PTO. It is a bit bigger in HP at around 30HP where as the 8N is around 23HP. For $1500 if you have the $$ I'd jump on it. But at the same time I would keep my eye out for say a 661 which has the same engine but has a 5 speed transmission and live hyds and PTO
 
For playing around 3 acres, live pto isn't that big of a deal unless you are running a snowblower. Live hydraulics, on the other hand is a big plus. The 53 anniversary is also much more collectible than the rest of the Fords of that era. I would jump on it.
 
I pretty much agree with all he other comments besides old's assertsion that naa don't have a pto. If 100 points was the prefect old Ford for casual use around a small acreage,I'd rate Ns 40,Ns with sherman 50,hundreds 65,hundreds with live pto and sherman 80 and thousands 100.
 
so let me get this straight, you are saying you will buy the jubilee, sell your N and it will still cost you $1500?

I don't think that upgrade it worth it at all. I only paid slightly more than 1500 for my 640, and everything worked except the proof meter. and I didn't sell anything!

Don't get me wrong, live hydraulics are wonderful, but that very small jump in tractor is not worth the money. I also agree that being the NAA is only a 2 year model, parts are harder to come by.

If I wanted to replace my N, a 660/661 would be my choice, however they seem to be pretty rare. If I wanted keep the N, I'd buy an 860/61 for any major PTO work (that's what I did).
 
The guys are right, no live PTO on a Jubilee unless added.
They do have live hydraulics and a few unique pieces.
I haven't found the unique pieces to be an issue.

I currently own two of them. Great tractors.
A couple weeks ago I moved 12 yards of crushed asphalt with the
front end loader on one of them and put in one of my sheds as a
floor. Never missed a beat.

A definite improvement over my N's as far as the live hydraulics,
OHV engine, more power, slower reverse gear, etc.
There are trade-offs of course, like using more gas.
 
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