Is this a real buyer????

JD Seller

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I have a JD straw chopper that will fit late JD 7700s or early JD 7720s. Just the straw chopper and door is what I am selling. This woman texts me asking if it was still for sale???? I had just listed it the night before. She wanted and email back which I sent her. I received this email back.

"Thanks for your response, I'm ok with the price and the description
stated so I would like to send payment asap. Please let me know if a
certified cashiers check is ok. After my check clears my Mover will
come and pick it up at your location. I would have come and taken a
look of it but I can't. (on a business trip ). If you can get back to
me with your info. I'll mail the check out asap. Need your FULL NAME
to write on the check and FULL ADDRESS,Your Cell Number and your FINAL
asking price.... to mail the check out asap. Thanks

NAME XXXXXXXXXX. (I took her name out. It is American sounding.)

Sent from my U.S. Cellular� Smartphone"""

So I sent her and email with my final price, and mailing address. She did not reply for a few days. I got this email today.

"Hello,
Sorry to not get back you sooner i have lost my granddad today,
though he is sick before i went for my business trip but it's ok.i am
the oldest person among the others,so therefore im responsible for all
the burial arrangement lol, i got your information, please i want you
to remove the item from sales list because I'm going to mail the check
out Soon and i will get back to you with the tracking # asap so that
you will know when to expect it. And am also going to include the
mover funds that will come down for pick up along with your payment.
So when you receive the check get your item fee and the rest goes to
the mover? so the pickup can take place. Let me read from you if am to
proceed with you or not,please respond asap.Thanks"

This is what she sent me. Now I am worried that this is some type of scam. She is sending me a check that I can wait until it clears before they pick the item up. The concern is about the funds for a "mover" ???? That is not how you would normally talk about some one that is picking up an item. Also in this email the wording does not sound right for an American.

I think I will send her another email requesting she call me to finalize any deal. If she is sending this from a US cellular phone she can call as easy as text. The whole thing is sounding fishy to me.
 
(quoted from post at 22:06:05 09/26/15) I have a JD straw chopper that will fit late JD 7700s or early JD 7720s. Just the straw chopper and door is what I am selling. This woman texts me asking if it was still for sale???? I had just listed it the night before. She wanted and email back which I sent her. I received this email back.

"Thanks for your response, I'm ok with the price and the description
stated so I would like to send payment asap. Please let me know if a
certified cashiers check is ok. After my check clears my Mover will
come and pick it up at your location. I would have come and taken a
look of it but I can't. (on a business trip ). If you can get back to
me with your info. I'll mail the check out asap. Need your FULL NAME
to write on the check and FULL ADDRESS,Your Cell Number and your FINAL
asking price.... to mail the check out asap. Thanks

NAME XXXXXXXXXX. (I took her name out. It is American sounding.)

Sent from my U.S. Cellular� Smartphone"""

So I sent her and email with my final price, and mailing address. She did not reply for a few days. I got this email today.

"Hello,
Sorry to not get back you sooner i have lost my granddad today,
though he is sick before i went for my business trip but it's ok.i am
the oldest person among the others,so therefore im responsible for all
the burial arrangement lol, i got your information, please i want you
to remove the item from sales list because I'm going to mail the check
out Soon and i will get back to you with the tracking # asap so that
you will know when to expect it. And am also going to include the
mover funds that will come down for pick up along with your payment.
So when you receive the check get your item fee and the rest goes to
the mover? so the pickup can take place. Let me read from you if am to
proceed with you or not,please respond asap.Thanks"

This is what she sent me. Now I am worried that this is some type of scam. She is sending me a check that I can wait until it clears before they pick the item up. The concern is about the funds for a "mover" ???? That is not how you would normally talk about some one that is picking up an item. Also in this email the wording does not sound right for an American.

I think I will send her another email requesting she call me to finalize any deal. If she is sending this from a US cellular phone she can call as easy as text. The whole thing is sounding fishy to me.

Scam....but it is always fun to mess with them. Ask her to email you a bill of lading so you can have it ready when the shipper comes....
 
Hi I'm going with scam, If a persons sick enough to do those scams your sick enough to use your granddads death to make "you" feel sorry for them. wouldn't mind betting if she was advertising for sale it would be a "carefully used headstone" from her grandmothers grave they would try that to for a few $ profit!!!!. I bet the scams the one where the checks for to much or something like that. or she gets your information and sells it to somebody or you find somebody tried taking out loans or finance in your name in a few months.

Hopefully you really didn't give to much info already . maybe ask her to send a picture of the combine she wants to put it on, either she won't or it's a shiny JD lawn tractor with loader and backhoe L.O.L. Also If I text you and said I was the Rabbi Yogi schmeclehiemer would you in this current world of these crooks, assume I was Jewish without speaking to me, as she used an American sounding name to L.O.L. It's got to sound convincing enough!.
I still think run forest Run If she was genuine( I highly doubt) oh well deal with cash and face to face then you got a fair chance it's genuine unless the cash is fake.
Regards Robert
 
That's definitely a scam. That's how they do it. They offer to send you a (fake) check, to buy the item, without seeing it.

Here's the scam: You deposit the check, supposedly to pay for the item you're selling. In a couple of days your bank will tell you the check cleared and show the money in your account.

However, in TWO weeks, the fake check will bounce or be exposed as fake. Then the bank will REMOVE the money from your account and tell you "No, it actually didn't really clear. That check is from a nonexistent account."

By then, some people will have shipped them item, or mailed them back the $300, that the check just happened to be higher than your asking price, because of some complicated reason that may sound possible at first, until you understand that's how they work.
Craigslist info on scams
 
Scam. I DO NOT respond to those type of proposals on items I have listed on Craigs List.

Move on to the next buyer. Good luck.
 
Who's leg are you pulling JD? You have been online long enough to know better than to fall for that. And now you actually gave "her" your name and address? BEWARE you are on that persons "sucker list" They will try again and maybe be more clever next time.
 
Well JD I agree it does sound a little funny. The English is just a little off and she refers to the chopper as an "item" and your price as a "fee" and the shipper as a "mover". However if she really sends a cashiers check you should be good as cashiers checks are supposed to be on the bank.
Here's what you can do:
1) Google her name and see where she works and you can verify that it is a real company and she really works there.
2) Do not cash the check particularly if it turns out to not be a cashiers check. Call the bank that is on the check and verify there are sufficient funds to cover the check.
3) You have a pretty good relationship with you local bank have them work with her bank to get the money direct. If they refuse tell her to send the mover with cash.

I had an item (don't remember what) for sale the "buyer" was a professor at a New York school, the check was on a Los Angles bank and they didn't answer the phone. The "mover" never called to try and pick up the Item and the "buyer" kept e-mailing with threats. It stopped when I asked him if he really wanted me to send all this information to the school he was working at. I think he realized I had found him and wanted away from me.
 
The old advance payment scam. They send you a check for more than the purchase price and ask you to send them a money order or wire transfer for the overpayment. The check they send you is of course worthless.

If you didn't immediately spot this as a scam, surely you were tipped off when "she" used "lol" in the same sentence as "burial arrangements".

I am absolutely certain that:
1. Your "buyer" is not a woman.
2. Your "buyer" does not live in the US.
3. Your "buyer" has absolutely no interest in buying your straw chopper, and for that matter doesn't even know what a straw chopper is. HE has probably never seen a combine in his life, but is able to make a comfortable living scamming folks like yourself.
 
If you had a phone number and try to call it... The say I can't take calls cause I am deaf. Their book of excuses are thick.
 
Scam! And you gave her way too much information. By now she probably has your spleen and one of your kidneys and you don't even know it.

It's sad we have to be so skeptical of people anymore.
 
Sounds like a scam, JD.

The wording of her message is just a bit odd. Why would a person over pay you... and ask you to pay their "mover"? Next step is you will be asked to wire the amount of the over payment to the "mover" to complete the scam.

It's not as common, but cashier's checks CAN be fraudulent too.
 
I buy and sell online. For those kinds of transactions, I have both a Magic Jack phone number( in Wisconsin) and a Google voice number (in Texas). Both are handy when you don't really want someone to know who and where you are yet. I have an email that is only used for those kinds of things. Easier to delete garbage.

I use Paypal for many transactions, there might be a charge but it is less than a scammer might cost me.

I have been known to use Zabasearch and Whitepages to see if I can determine if a person really exists. So far, it has all been good.
 
There always a death in the family, there's always a discussion about payments OTHER than cash, now you can string this person along, play the same game, I've done it more than once, and you have the ebola monkey man and 419 baiter sites where they profile all the scammers they've turned the tables on, mind you, neither are family G rated sites, they deserve what they get. These people will hack you up into little pieces given the chance, fools have traveled to Nigeria and similar places, never to be heard from again, just based on some far out offer they were lured in with. The use of the english language also comes into play here, (your favorite subject LOL!) its always the first tip off for me, they just cannot use the english language properly, and its a big red flag with this culture barrier.

Perfect example quoted below, always a death in the family, always this shipping third party, over payment, remainder goes to you, they just want some information to use, to RIP you off!

You can do the same thing, make arrangements to follow through once you have them hooked but good, then you have a death in the family, make up a fake news paper obituary, local zoo had a herd of elephants stampede your farm, theres cattle loose, your bank burned down, just use your imagination, but only do so once you have them hooked, you'll notice the tone change once you string them along far enough. Its also been said not to mess with these people as they have operatives or relatives in the country, I don't buy it, they'd regret a personal confrontation quickly.

Clear red flags, though they are better at using the language, its still easy to spot.

"i am
the oldest person among the others,so therefore im responsible for all
the burial arrangement lol"

"Let me read from you if am to
proceed with you or not"

"And am also going to include the
mover funds that will come down for pick up along with your payment"
 
"if she really sends a cashiers check you should be good as cashiers checks are supposed to be on the bank"

Not true. The bank will cash it, but when it bounces the bank will come after you rather than the person who sent it - you assume full responsibility for a cashier's check. That's why scammers always want to send a cashier's check; you can cash it immediately and send them your money. But the check will still bounce.

I had a similar response recently when I tried to sell an outboard motor. The guy claimed to need it right away, before his wedding date. Really? He needs to buy a forty year old outboard, sight unseen, so he has it for his honeymoon? Oh, and he wanted to send a cashier's check for the full asking prices with some extra funds thrown in..
 
(quoted from post at 23:06:05 09/26/15) I have a JD straw chopper that will fit late JD 7700s or early JD 7720s. Just the straw chopper and door is what I am selling. This woman texts me asking if it was still for sale???? I had just listed it the night before. She wanted and email back which I sent her. I received this email back.

"Thanks for your response, I'm ok with the price and the description
stated so I would like to send payment asap. Please let me know if a
certified cashiers check is ok. After my check clears my Mover will
come and pick it up at your location. I would have come and taken a
look of it but I can't. (on a business trip ). If you can get back to
me with your info. I'll mail the check out asap. Need your FULL NAME
to write on the check and FULL ADDRESS,Your Cell Number and your FINAL
asking price.... to mail the check out asap. Thanks

NAME XXXXXXXXXX. (I took her name out. It is American sounding.)

Sent from my U.S. Cellular� Smartphone"""

So I sent her and email with my final price, and mailing address. She did not reply for a few days. I got this email today.

"Hello,
Sorry to not get back you sooner i have lost my granddad today,
though he is sick before i went for my business trip but it's ok.i am
the oldest person among the others,so therefore im responsible for all
the burial arrangement lol, i got your information, please i want you
to remove the item from sales list because I'm going to mail the check
out Soon and i will get back to you with the tracking # asap so that
you will know when to expect it. And am also going to include the
mover funds that will come down for pick up along with your payment.
So when you receive the check get your item fee and the rest goes to
the mover? so the pickup can take place. Let me read from you if am to
proceed with you or not,please respond asap.Thanks"

This is what she sent me. Now I am worried that this is some type of scam. She is sending me a check that I can wait until it clears before they pick the item up. The concern is about the funds for a "mover" ???? That is not how you would normally talk about some one that is picking up an item. Also in this email the wording does not sound right for an American.

I think I will send her another email requesting she call me to finalize any deal. If she is sending this from a US cellular phone she can call as easy as text. The whole thing is sounding fishy to me.

Yep, your instincts are good, it is definitely a SCAM!!
 
Nope, scam. Get multiple ones of these every time I try to sell something. I either tell them that I only deal in person and in CASH, or tell them that they will have to wait 60 days for the check to clear. Never heard back from one of them after that.
 
Classic scam. I have received many of those on banjos and fiddles I was selling and when I report them to Etsy where I am selling they delete the account of the scammer. Of course the scammer will just open a new account but at least it slows them down slightly. Any time someone sends an email that talks about your "item" instead of calling it what it is that is a red flag.
Zach
 
I sold a MC last year to someone out of state, my bank said it would take about 3 days to guarantee that a cashiers check is good. Worked out fine for me, he didn't pick up the bike for about a month, so I had it and the money!
 

I was selling an 8 N and a guy sent me a check for 10 g , told me to take out my 2500.00 and give the remainder to the mover .

The check took 3 days to clear and the guy was mad when i called him , but my bank called his bank for me and the check was good . I should have drove for 8 hours to his bank and cashed the cheque to scam him , but i didn't .

So just think of some way to beet this scammer at his own game . I your case ,if you get the cash money in hand for your item , then who cares about the mover --pay him and off he goes
 
Yes,it's real. The check will be for way more than you're asking and you'll have to refund a big chunk of the money,but don't worry about it. Everybody's honest.


Are you even serious asking this,or just looking for some laughs from the responses?
 
Scam. I got an email like that on a stock trailer I listed on CL. Deleted it and ignored any more. That was the beginning of the end of my selling on CL. Now it's a consignment auction or the Farm bureau spokesman.
 
Scam. The first sentence in their response tells me it is. Sounds too "technical" to be legitimate and sounds generic.
 
RUN!

I got the EXACT same reply when I was trying to sell a Pelican Paddle Boat. I went along with it, and he sent a check for $2200, when the boat was only $400. Went to the bank with my dad, because even the check seemed weird. Ladys there told us that it was a common scam...

Not really sure how it worked after that, but, it was indeed a scam... Reply to her again with a letter that is literally just:


aohasiofhihnejkr jeariaf jietpiogeo jeogpjp jie ji gejiabsbjbsjf abjbasfjbfdh bhfdaf.

And she will say, "Okay, sounds good. Please send me your information", and if you reply with rubbish again, she will send the exact same e-mail again!!! ;)

Bryce
 
Another thing is if you cashed that check in your account they now have your number on the check. Scams all over the place.
 
Since she has your address, have her send the Mover the money ((knows him well --yea right) and he can cash it and bring green backs to pick it up. Jim
 
"If she is sending this from a US cellular phone she can call as easy as text. "



I guarantee you it wasn't sent from US cellular. That's easy to spoof.

Most likely the "mover" will never show and she'll want you to refund the money, from your bank account...
 
Run don't walk!!

When I advertised a wide front here on YT no less, I got the start of one of these. It stunk from the word go (poor english etc). I responded that payments accepted would be either CASH (which would be checked for counterfit), check with letter of credit, or cashiers check in the amount of item only. Never heard back.

What will likely happen if you follow through with this buyer is this. They will send you the Cashiers check in excess of your asking price. You will give the excess to the shipper. Three months later there will be a stop payment on the cashiers check. By this time the buyers are in the wind, the chopper has likely been crushed and you are out both the value of the chopper and the excess you gave the shipper.

I have also had this happen on ebay with a pickup I was selling.

I remember finding a couple websites as to how to mess with these scammers but didn't have the inclination or time to deal with it beyond what I stated above.

jt
 
You know....if you move your right hand over one set of letters (leaving your left) it almost seems coherent of what you type...lol Either that or its French.
 
JD Seller- Well, now that she has your address...just remember...if you wake up in a bath-tub full of ice....1st, do not panic and jump up. Calmly feel around your torso for any new sutures. 2nd, Calmly reach for the phone or holler for assistance....(joking).LOL
 
My two cents' worth....
Deal in CASH only. Face to face with the buyer. No need for movers until the deal is complete.
This whole thing smells of the Nigerian prince scam.
Since when does one suddenly become the oldest of those remaining, and LAUGH OUT LOUD over making burial arrangements??? REALLY!!!

I would not let this one within 100 miles of my property without cash in hand.
 
"Dear Mr. JD- please to remit $250 US to me immeditly so I can send proceeds of $1M lottery winnings to you........."
 
I would not trust it either ,, damscammers , seen a few , , once I came back with . , nephew in jail and I need cash to bail him out , so I can get hay balin done,.. see what happens next ,,. watch out for addresses...God Is Great Beer is Good ,, AND PEOPLE ARE CRAZY... Son mike and I got to campfire talk , Saturday evening ,, he runs the home imp biz that I founded in 74, he told of a scammer that nearly trapped Veitnam vet who is a good builder friend of mine that was still building after getting out of army in 72,.. I visited the job last week when mike needed some stuff and I was in Louisville making parts run ,... got to talk with jim the builder too ,,. he told me that the original owner of the house lot had tried to scam him and now he owns the lot house and all,, phoney bank records,attorney letters of will proceeds from a wealthy uncle to the tune of 800 ,000 bux ,, all looked better than great,, Yeah Shoulda known better/? Rite? .dude signed contract a yr ago, and said he had to go to Canada for couple wks to finish details of uncles estate . SO here is 15 k to put in basement walls . check is no good till 30th when it should clear Toronto bank .OK.. then , Since that's less than a week , Lets get started and he does , jim digs the basement , pours footers and sets walls and foundation is done when bank calls , says there is trouble with chek bounce,,. he calls dude in Canada , dude says, minor problem here ,, give me a few days to straighten out , next week dudes wife here writes a chek to cover 1st chek ,, legitimately thinking she had REAL FUNDS to Cover it ,, saying all will be well when everything is final in Canada . THEN , that chek is no good too , ..dude don't return calls because of poor cell service , he claims ,, , finally calls back saying his wife was not supposed to do anything , that she knowingly wrote a chek on a dead account , And He has everything in order in Canada and all should be well by Friday .. , That HE HANDLES FINANCES, NOT HER ,, and they are kinda into it long distance ,.btw , jim ,how is house framing going ??, jim says, rain delays have kept him from getting started , KINDA , In Reality He smelled a rat . couple days later dudes wife shows up in tears at jims place and tells jim and wife,,, she is getting divorce from DUde ,, He cleaned out her savings and went somewhere ,, but it was not Canada,,. and wished to come clean ,, decent girl that got in over her head with a playboy , started having doubts when plans were drawn for house but kept mum , because he still seemed legit , , the lot was on her parents farm and they simply signed lot over to jim , in the end ,to spec build a home now ,.,,. I asked if he prosecuted the dude,,,. said it just was not worth the hassle ,, he would rather beat the heck out of the dude,, IF He COULD FIND HIM..
 
Fellows the straw chopper is sold to a local fellow that will pick it up Monday night.

I had never gotten one of these scam letter directly and for an items that was being sold so cheap. A soon as the second email came I figured 85% scam. Than after the next reply 100% scam. Still never called me to finalize the deal. LOL

The term "mover" is what caught my eye as wrong.

I have a grain table for sale and the fellow asking about it used a strange term when asking for more information. Turns out he was raised in Germany and lives just few miles from me. His grammar is off some even when your talking to him.
 
Sold my brother's truck for him, got hundreds in cash as payment, and about 2/3 of the bills were good. Luckily I knew where the woman and boyfriend lived, and pounded their door hard til I got real money. They were SO surprised. Cash is good, but get one of those pens and check the bills.
By the way, don't think the police will help you. I told them all about the counterfeit bills, gave them the name and address, ..... nothing. They didn't care.
 

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