farmer boy
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Top of the picture is north. What would cause this type of thing?
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Top of the picture is north. What would cause this type of thing?
shaun wallace
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What do you mean? Section lines not North/South. Lots land was surveyed off kilter to todays standards. If that is what you are meaning its that way all over this North American continent.
farmer boy
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Lot lines run square with the general direction of Hwy 7. I'm talking about the way the bush lines, etc, run SW to NE
farmer boy
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I just find it odd the way that everything(bush lines, fields) run SW to NE. There seems to be more to it then the settlers simply clearing
fields that way, especially given that the lot lines are generally square to Hwy 7(road with the green and white maple leaf). I could be
overthinking this, I've been accused of it more than once. Next time I'm out there I'll really pay attention to it. Never paid attention to
it when I was out that way before.
I don't think there's anyone out that way on this forum that may be able to explain what happened in this area . Bruce is NW of this area.
fields that way, especially given that the lot lines are generally square to Hwy 7(road with the green and white maple leaf). I could be
overthinking this, I've been accused of it more than once. Next time I'm out there I'll really pay attention to it. Never paid attention to
it when I was out that way before.
I don't think there's anyone out that way on this forum that may be able to explain what happened in this area . Bruce is NW of this area.
CenTex Farmall
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I googled the area to see a bigger picture and judging by the lakes in the area being in generally the same orientation I'm going to vote for effects of glaciers cutting and gouging and moving soil centuries ago. The rivers and streams ran along those gouges toward lake Ontario when the glaciers melted.
People farmed where there was good dirt and thus the fields still reflect those shapes.
If you look at the Mississippi river valley you can see filled in oxbow lakes that are miles from where the river is now. That river has been all over the place. And we foolish mortals believe we can control all that water with some dikes and levees.
People farmed where there was good dirt and thus the fields still reflect those shapes.
If you look at the Mississippi river valley you can see filled in oxbow lakes that are miles from where the river is now. That river has been all over the place. And we foolish mortals believe we can control all that water with some dikes and levees.
Brown Swiss
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Most likely from the glaciers many moons ago! I live in an area along the Mississippi (sw wi) called the Driftless area, glaciers did not come through here, it is hillier than all get out, the bluffs look like fingers along side the river, I am sure shaped from years of water.
I'm sorry to have to inform you, but large swaths of this country were never laid out to a compass square. They were laid out according to the geographical features of the area. Roads came MUCH later... and those developed from paths that wandered around swamps more or less taking the most direct route available towards the destination. This aint't the flatlands... what you see in that pic is really quire square relative to what you would find here in Nova Scotia...
Rod
Rod
A lot of game trails, especially made by buffalo, were followed by early settlers as they figured that the game knew where there was water. Later those trails became wondering roads.
Glaciers also carved ridges and valleys that influenced where roads and other geographical features became prominent.
Glaciers also carved ridges and valleys that influenced where roads and other geographical features became prominent.
MarkB_MI
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That is Ontario. I don't know why the section lines in Ontario are not oriented on the meridians and parallels as they are in the western US and Canada, but that's the way it is.
farmerwithmutt
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I kinda remember that in Canada the French
laid out the land in lots from the river
out in other words your lots are square to
the river edge not sure but guessing.
In my area they made adjustment on north
west corner for the curvature of the earth
my top 40 is only is 1319 ft the bottom 40
is 1326 feet the bad thing is they
measured it at 1320 feet want to guess how
much the fence is off? One other thing
that you see is going down the road it
curves and part of a corner of a farm ends
up across the road you see maybe an acre
looking different then the rest
laid out the land in lots from the river
out in other words your lots are square to
the river edge not sure but guessing.
In my area they made adjustment on north
west corner for the curvature of the earth
my top 40 is only is 1319 ft the bottom 40
is 1326 feet the bad thing is they
measured it at 1320 feet want to guess how
much the fence is off? One other thing
that you see is going down the road it
curves and part of a corner of a farm ends
up across the road you see maybe an acre
looking different then the rest
showcrop
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The geological features run the same as the mountains and hills. If you look a little to the SE in central PA the ridges there are not high enough to be mountains but they sure are steep! If you are ever in the western panhandle of MD on RT 86 at Sidling Hill where there is a deep cut, you can see the huge fold in the rock strata where the earth's crust pushed up over itself. Your hills and valleys are just small scale versions of the same wrinkling of the crust. Here in southern NH you can see on an old 1700s map where the original king's grants were laid out and provisions for roads here and there. You can see where modern roads still follow the original ways and also where corners were cut and also where roads were probably never even built due swamps or steep hills etc,
Those are definetly glacial features. As the glaciers proceeded, the overburden was scaped off, down to the bedrock. In that area as in much of the Canadian sheild, you can see gouges left in the bedrock from the glaciers. As the glaciers receded, whatever they were carrying was deposited in the area and ultimatley rehaped into valleys hills and rivers. Some of the countries best topsoil can be found here due to the level of naturally occuring minerals in it. In many areas, the bedrock is still exposed, so naturally, the lower areas would have more topsoil and thus more vegetative cover, leaving the more exposed areas showing up as in the photo. Bruce can likely tell us more.
Ben
Ben
Ben
Ben
Typically sections are 640 acres 1 mile x 1 mile , and the borders are concessions roads or road extensions , sometimes they are rerouted for hills swamps etc. and that is why land owners have roads easments running throught their property . Like my uncle has part of the Trans Canada Highway running across his lawn .
Larry --ont.
MarkB_MI
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OK, so this is something I've wondered about for years. I did a bunch of googling, and this is the best explanation I can come up with. If one of you Ontario boys have a better explanation, speak up.
The way Ontario was originally surveyed was to first lay out "concession" roads. These roads are for the most part straight, but they aren't oriented north-south or east-west as you would expect in the west. The direction of each concession road is somewhat arbitrary; many are roughly parallel to the shoreline of the nearest Great Lake. Since everything else (section lines, roads) is surveyed relative to the concession roads, you end up with a pattern of roads running in odd directions.
Concession road
The way Ontario was originally surveyed was to first lay out "concession" roads. These roads are for the most part straight, but they aren't oriented north-south or east-west as you would expect in the west. The direction of each concession road is somewhat arbitrary; many are roughly parallel to the shoreline of the nearest Great Lake. Since everything else (section lines, roads) is surveyed relative to the concession roads, you end up with a pattern of roads running in odd directions.
Concession road
farmer boy
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In this case though, the lots were laid out squarish to hwy 7. Ontario is laid out every which way. Can't hardly make sense of it. An example is hwy 10 in w Ontario it runs NW and has 2 roads on either side of it hat run parallel to it called the east back line and west back line, and all the surrounding roads run into them on an angle. So it becomes a real pain just to cross this hwy because unless you know how it's laid out you'll get lost. And the whole stinking province is laid out like this.
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